Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Bastien wrote: > Edward Cherlin writes: > >> You want 'setxkbmap fr'. > > It works!  Great, thanks. > > Is there something similar to .xsession where I could put this > instruction, so that I don't need to run the script from within > the Terminal each time? Ther

Re: [Sugar-devel] activities using zip files

2009-05-28 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:54 AM, James Simmons wrote: > Sascha, > > If the Activity creates a Zip file then the Journal automatically > resumes it in that Activity.  Making Activities use a special MIME type > when creating a Journal entry doesn't give me anything I don't have already. > > Where w

Re: [Sugar-devel] activities using zip files

2009-05-28 Thread James Simmons
Sascha, If the Activity creates a Zip file then the Journal automatically resumes it in that Activity. Making Activities use a special MIME type when creating a Journal entry doesn't give me anything I don't have already. Where we have problems is in downloading Zip files from Gutenberg and o

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Felipe López Toledo
>Heh, I didn't know LocalStorage had been in Firefox for so longme too. here is an useful link about DOM Storage https://developer.mozilla.org/En/DOM:Storage >Again, this should be sufficient for Karma-in-Firefox anyway, I'm looking how to get running GG with Browse 2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Bastien
Edward Cherlin writes: > You want 'setxkbmap fr'. It works! Great, thanks. Is there something similar to .xsession where I could put this instruction, so that I don't need to run the script from within the Terminal each time? -- Bastien ___ Sugar-

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Sean DALY
$ setxkbmap fr Ed, you forwarded me this workaround weeks ago and I just wanted to tell you how useful it's been, I use it every time I boot SoaS on my Azerty netbooks thanks Sean On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Bastien wrote: >> I di

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:35:20AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: > >> However, I had to invoke 'force checkout' several times, because of >> missing .git directories. > > Interesting. Where exactly? TurtleArt or something else? Four or five t

[Sugar-devel] Collaboration/Google wave

2009-05-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Google announced Google Wave today: http://wave.google.com/ The collaboration framework is really interesting: http://www.waveprotocol.org/whitepapers/operational-transform It would be very interesting to see how this might benefit Sugar; it seems like the school server might run a local wave-pro

[Sugar-devel] activities using zip files (was: Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism)

2009-05-28 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:34:03PM -0500, James Simmons wrote: 5). When several Activities support the same MIME type (Zip files are BOUND to be popular) then there needs to be a way of specifying that a particular Journal entry should be resumed by a particular Activity by default. Actually

[Sugar-devel] changed list admin password

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:15:22PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: >On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 15:42, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 03:23:20PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: >> >2009/5/28 Jonas Smedegaard >> >> Please subscribe to the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] Important Schedule Changes - Please Read!

2009-05-28 Thread Walter Bender
If you can manage to do this, that'd be great. -walter On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Luke Faraone wrote: > 2009/5/26 Walter Bender >> >> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Tomeu Vizoso >> wrote: >> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 18:38, Sean DALY wrote: >> >>> What we call beta - can't be announc

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:35:20AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: However, I had to invoke 'force checkout' several times, because of missing .git directories. Interesting. Where exactly? TurtleArt or something else? setxkbmap us You mean you can run this command inside Terminal inside sugar-em

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 06:25:26PM +0200, Bastien wrote: ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck doesn't advertize the need for python-distutils-extra. Recent bug reports about this: [...] I got knocked out by a major infection imported from SugarCamp/Paris. About the same time (starting just before Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] Important Schedule Changes - Please Read!

2009-05-28 Thread Luke Faraone
2009/5/26 Walter Bender > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Tomeu Vizoso > wrote: > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 18:38, Sean DALY wrote: > >>> What we call beta - can't be announced as "is working out of the box". > >> I completely agree... nor can what we call v1 be announced as working > >> out

Re: [Sugar-devel] Documentation [WAS: Re: [Localization] Help activity]

2009-05-28 Thread Luke Faraone
2009/5/28 Tomeu Vizoso > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 21:47, Sayamindu Dasgupta > wrote: > > [Jumping into the discussion midway]: > > > > From an l10n point of view, I would highly recommend adopting (and > > perhaps extending) the GNOME documentation framework. It is docbook > > based, which is a f

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Luke Faraone
2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu > > You mean that GG tries to write in /usr if it has been installed in > > /usr? That sounds wrong and may be configurable or fixable. > I think /usr, I didn't check. I will today. > > Yes, it certainly is fixable, but I'm not sure it is also > configurable. I'd hate to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Progress with SoaS boot-helper

2009-05-28 Thread Luke Faraone
2009/5/28 Caroline Meeks > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> Hi Luke, can you point us to a link where we can learn more about what >> you are trying to accomplish? >> > I think this is Ticket 598 to support the Gardner Pilot. the use case is > here: > http://wiki.suga

Re: [Sugar-devel] Kartik - internship outside GSoC

2009-05-28 Thread kartik rustagi
So its decided that I will be working on Groups, as was suggested by tomeu earlier. I will be needing a Joining letter from Sugar. I mailed the blank format in a previous mail. It will be great if its print out is taken, filled and then a scanned copy mailed to me. Sugar can also provide its own Jo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Bastien wrote: > I did a fresh install of sugar-jhbuild. Likewise. > ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck doesn't advertize the need for > python-distutils-extra.  Recent bug reports about this: > > http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/902 > http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/898

[Sugar-devel] The moodle-Print User Experience

2009-05-28 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
Hi, I was wondering about the best moodle user experience. The three procedures I've sketched out are: 1) Follow the roots of the advanced assignment upload module, and let printing be added by the teacher as an activity for a specific period. Or 2) Make printing a default resource for every cour

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Sean DALY
I, too, encounter difficulty finding elements in the Journal but haven't found time yet to contribute to a feature discussion. just 2 cents about hierarchical representation: it certainly has uses. The coolest one I ever saw was 8 years ago by a company (trying to remember the name) that provides

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
Slightly off-topic, a new Gears has been released http://gearsblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/gears-05210-released.html The Blob builder API is very interesting, as it possibly allows altering arbitrary files from JavaScript. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread NoiseEHC
There are 3 different ideas when we are talking about Journal vs Directories: 1. Whether we are limiting the user to use exactly one filtering category for his/her documents (and lets call them Files and the filter the Files' Directory) or we allow multiple filters (and call them Tags). 2. Wheth

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] classroom presenter, iTalc for sugar (possible ports for LinuxTag Berlin showoff)

2009-05-28 Thread David Van Assche
Hi, Caroline, that is exactly how iTalc works. The teacher can pass on the session to one or groups of students, so it becomes a great way for everyone to join in. If you are going to be at LinuxTag, I can do a quick demo so u can see how this would work in a real teaching environment. I have als

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Bastien
I did a fresh install of sugar-jhbuild. ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck doesn't advertize the need for python-distutils-extra. Recent bug reports about this: http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/902 http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/898 Another problem: sugar-jhbuild still doesn't recognize my keyboard to

[Sugar-devel] Journal criticism (or not)

2009-05-28 Thread James Simmons
My two cents: When I started programming computers 30+ years ago data was stored in punch cards and reels of tape. Disk storage was available, but too expensive to use to store large amounts of data. (I didn't hear the word "gigabyte" until the late 80's). In classes at college I studied da

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu : > Heh, I didn't know LocalStorage had been in Firefox for so long. I was > under the impression it was at the same stage as Webkit. Thanks for > the link. > > Again, this should be sufficient for Karma-in-Firefox. > > But many websites already use Gears specifically, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
Heh, I didn't know LocalStorage had been in Firefox for so long. I was under the impression it was at the same stage as Webkit. Thanks for the link. Again, this should be sufficient for Karma-in-Firefox. But many websites already use Gears specifically, and I need them to work for Webified. 2009

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to get sugar config values without a console?

2009-05-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:48 PM, wrote: > if you're root, use the force: you are truly evil :-) m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/5/28 Martin Langhoff : > 2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu : >> Not really. HTML 5 only brings an SQLite database accessible from JavaScript. >> >> Gears has other features that aren't present in Gecko proper (yet): >> - LocalServer - a way to transparently persist resources locally > > I thought HTML

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
AFAIK it's not in the spec (yet), but there was some talk about it. In any case, it's certainly not in browsers. 2009/5/28 Martin Langhoff : > 2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu : >> Not really. HTML 5 only brings an SQLite database accessible from JavaScript. >> >> Gears has other features that aren't pre

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu : > Not really. HTML 5 only brings an SQLite database accessible from JavaScript. > > Gears has other features that aren't present in Gecko proper (yet): > - LocalServer - a way to transparently persist resources locally I thought HTML5 had some "offline resource" facilit

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to get sugar config values without a console?

2009-05-28 Thread pgf
martin wrote: > I'm working on olpc-update-query, a script that runs without a tty > (from NM hooks and cron) and needs to query Sugar configuration stuff. > To make things more complicated, it runs as root :-/ > > It's a good thing that we have sugar-control-panel, but at least on > 0.82 it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Progress with SoaS boot-helper

2009-05-28 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 16:49, Luke Faraone wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > This is turning into a larger project than I'd originally imagined. > > > > Since the current process of using LVM loop-mounted partitions prevents > us > > from mounting

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
Not really. HTML 5 only brings an SQLite database accessible from JavaScript. Gears has other features that aren't present in Gecko proper (yet): - LocalServer - a way to transparently persist resources locally - WorkerPool - threads. The WHATWG HTML 5 spec does include provisions for WebWorkers,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu : > For both Webified and Karma, Gears support in Browse is necessary (or > at least preferred), but AFAIK there is currently no strategy to get > it running. If I understand correctly, the 'HTML5' extensions push means that the core gecko gets facilities that look almost

[Sugar-devel] How to get sugar config values without a console?

2009-05-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
I'm working on olpc-update-query, a script that runs without a tty (from NM hooks and cron) and needs to query Sugar configuration stuff. To make things more complicated, it runs as root :-/ It's a good thing that we have sugar-control-panel, but at least on 0.82 it doesn't work unless you're in T

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/5/28 Tomeu Vizoso : > 2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu : >> For both Webified and Karma, Gears support in Browse is necessary (or >> at least preferred), but AFAIK there is currently no strategy to get >> it running. > > I have managed to get it running in Browse some months ago by > expanding the .x

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [IAEP] IRC application Autojoin feature does not work on Soas2-20090524 (Soas-1)]

2009-05-28 Thread Frederick Grose
Forwarded conversation Subject: Re: [IAEP] IRC application Autojoin feature does not work on Soas2-20090524 (Soas-1)] From: *Thomas C Gilliard* Date: Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:00 PM To: feedb...@sugarlabs.org Caroline; I tried a burned CD of .iso. There is no memory in c

Re: [Sugar-devel] disabling "tap to click"

2009-05-28 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/5/28 roshan karki : > The problem with gsynaptics is I don't have any section with "synaptic" as > identifier in xorg.conf Yes, the XO ships with the standard PS/2 driver, so the touchpad runs in the PS/2 "emulation" mode. This works but means you don't have control over the more advanced fea

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [IAEP] IRC application Autojoin feature does not work on Soas2-20090524 (Soas-1)

2009-05-28 Thread Frederick Grose
Forwarding to sugar-devel. NOTE: Mail sent to feedb...@sugarlabs.org is forwarded to i...@lists.sugarlabs.org subscribers and appears with the [IAEP] prefix and footer, but the post is not in the IAEP Archives, http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/. Forwarded conversation Subject: [IAEP] IRC

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [IAEP] Testing Soas

2009-05-28 Thread Frederick Grose
Hi Tom, Your work on the VMware page, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VMware, has been helpful. Others may want to collaborate with you there. Please also look at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad and its subpages. You could help in verifying and sorting out problems reported in our bug tracki

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Albert Cahalan wrote: > James Zaki writes: > >> Understanding hierarchical file structures use the concepts of containers >> and recursion with no limits (except for total capacity). It is not >> naturally intuitive, like a tree where branches get smaller from the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] classroom presenter, iTalc for sugar (possible ports for LinuxTag Berlin showoff)

2009-05-28 Thread Caroline Meeks
+1 on the importance of iTalc like functionality. If that is something Windows/Apple can do and Sugar can't its going to hurt adoption. It would be cool if students could also become the presenters so the teacher could ask a student in the room to explain how a problem was done and pass control

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] classroom presenter, iTalc for sugar (possible ports for LinuxTag Berlin showoff)

2009-05-28 Thread Sean DALY
Very interesting David, thanks I can't wait to see that at LinuxTag. Sean On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:17 AM, David Van Assche wrote: > Hi, >At LinuxTag Berlin, there are 3 areas that are of particular interest to > me, and might be considered novelties in the way sugar can/will be presented

Re: [Sugar-devel] LinuxDay Conference?

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 13:32, Bastien wrote: > http://2009.linuxdays.ch/fr/content/programme > > Clearly business-oriented, but they have a thematic on Education > where Sugar could sneak in. > > PS: Btw, I have the feeling this list is not the right place for such > announcements.  Do we have so

[Sugar-devel] LinuxDay Conference?

2009-05-28 Thread Bastien
http://2009.linuxdays.ch/fr/content/programme Clearly business-oriented, but they have a thematic on Education where Sugar could sneak in. PS: Btw, I have the feeling this list is not the right place for such announcements. Do we have something like a marketing list? Or shall I sent this to Se

Re: [Sugar-devel] classroom presenter, iTalc for sugar (possible ports for LinuxTag Berlin showoff)

2009-05-28 Thread James Zaki
I am very interested in the digital whiteboard at LinuxTag. I will be going, and would love to be a part of it if you need some help. Once I get my system(s) back up (tagging fedora bugs along the way). I will try take a look into the Classroom presenter activity. 2009/5/28 David Van Assche >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 06:18:35AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: >On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:58:17AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: >>>Tomeu Vizoso writes: > I think it's very importan

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:29:23PM +0200, James Zaki wrote: >Not sure where my complete email went... something to do with awaiting >approval I think. [actual content snipped] Please subscribe to the lists that you post to, to bypass our spam s

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:07, Albert Cahalan wrote: > 2009/5/28 NoiseEHC : >> >> I think it's very important if we want to keep pushing Sugar that we >> distinguish between design decisions and bugs and unimplemented >> features. If we bring down good design ideas not by themselves but >> because

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: journal criticism (was Re: Re: Re: [IAEP] [RELEASE] TurtleArt-51)

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:41, James Zaki wrote: > I did not know there was much debate about this, because for me the journal > in its current state made sense for the target audience of sugar. > > Understanding hierarchical file structures use the concepts of containers > and recursion with no l

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] classroom presenter, iTalc for sugar (possible ports for LinuxTag Berlin showoff)

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 08:17, David Van Assche wrote: > Hi, >    At LinuxTag Berlin, there are 3 areas that are of particular interest to > me, and might be considered novelties in the way sugar can/will be presented > there. From one side, I will be representing sugar packaging on the openSUSE >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu : > For both Webified and Karma, Gears support in Browse is necessary (or > at least preferred), but AFAIK there is currently no strategy to get > it running. I have managed to get it running in Browse some months ago by expanding the .xpi and installing the files in a co

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread James Zaki
Not sure where my complete email went... something to do with awaiting approval I think. But just for clarity to all, I said the arrowed ">" text. 2009/5/28 Albert Cahalan > James Zaki writes: > > > Understanding hierarchical file structures use the concepts of containers > > and recursion wit

Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Video with Dailymotion

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 00:15, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Dailymotion, after creating an Ogg Theora video site optimized for > Sugar+XO at http://olpc.dailymotion.com/, have gone one step further to > expand Ogg Theora support across their entire video sharing system.  You > can try it out at h

Re: [Sugar-devel] Kartik - internship outside GSoC

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 14:18, kartik rustagi wrote: > > Hello everyone, > Sorry for replying after this long a duration. Exams followed by physical > damage to my machine consumed a lot of time. > I will like to start my internship under Sugarlabs ASAP. Can any one please > provide me a link to a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:58:17AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: >>Tomeu Vizoso writes: >>> I think it's very important if we want to keep pushing Sugar that we >>> distinguish between design decisions and bugs and unimplemented >>> featur

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
2009/5/28 NoiseEHC : > > I think it's very important if we want to keep pushing Sugar that we > distinguish between design decisions and bugs and unimplemented > features. If we bring down good design ideas not by themselves but > because of its implementation status, we risk ending up with nothing

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread NoiseEHC
I think it's very important if we want to keep pushing Sugar that we distinguish between design decisions and bugs and unimplemented features. If we bring down good design ideas not by themselves but because of its implementation status, we risk ending up with nothing that brings new value compa

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:58:17AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: >Tomeu Vizoso writes: >> I think it's very important if we want to keep pushing Sugar that we >> distinguish between design decisions and bugs and unimplemented >> features. If we b

Re: [Sugar-devel] Documentation [WAS: Re: [Localization] Help activity]

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 21:47, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > [Jumping into the discussion midway]: > > From an l10n point of view, I would highly recommend adopting (and > perhaps extending) the GNOME documentation framework. It is docbook > based, which is a format pretty easy to pick up (and I bel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
James Zaki writes: > Understanding hierarchical file structures use the concepts of containers > and recursion with no limits (except for total capacity). It is not > naturally intuitive, like a tree where branches get smaller from the trunk > with fruit/leaves only at the end nodes. > > Empirical

Re: [Sugar-devel] Progress with SoaS boot-helper

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 16:49, Luke Faraone wrote: > Hi all, > > This is turning into a larger project than I'd originally imagined. > > Since the current process of using LVM loop-mounted partitions prevents us > from mounting the SoaS filesystem outside of SoaS itself, we had to come up > with a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 02:07, Bastien wrote: > Tomeu Vizoso writes: > >> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 13:31, Bastien wrote: >>> +1 on the overall. >>> >>> Building Sugar from source should be as easy as: >>> >>> , >>> | ~$ git://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar-core/mainline.git >>> | ~$ ./configure >>>

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity development

2009-05-28 Thread Alex Levenson
Oh, and I don't know if it's still around, but jhbuild was pretty useful if you don't have an xo to work on. Alex On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Alex Levenson wrote: > A little background information. In the process of creating x2o, I created > Physics! sort of as a demo. So a lot of things are

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity development

2009-05-28 Thread Alex Levenson
A little background information. In the process of creating x2o, I created Physics! sort of as a demo. So a lot of things are further along in x2o because Physics! was sort of my sandbox for creating x2o. So if you want to polish off Physics!, please take a look at what I did with x2o, which integr

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity development

2009-05-28 Thread Asaf Paris Mandoki
Hi, I would like to get started adding the play/pause button and the pin button. Probably the next step is to integrate the activity with the journal. The only problem is that I haven't been able to get my development environment working. It seems there are some open issues with ubuntu. My plan ri

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] Important Schedule Changes - Please Read!

2009-05-28 Thread David Farning
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > CCing the lists again, which seem to keep following off the thread > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 18:38, Sean DALY wrote: What we call beta - can't be announced as "is working

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] Important Schedule Changes - Please Read!

2009-05-28 Thread Walter Bender
CCing the lists again, which seem to keep following off the thread On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 18:38, Sean DALY wrote: >>> What we call beta - can't be announced as "is working out of the box". >> I completely agree... nor can what we call

Re: [Sugar-devel] Who wants to adopt the Clock activity?

2009-05-28 Thread Pierre Métras
... > > > Can you tell me who to contact to have this activity adopted? > > Congratulations, you got lucky with your first email ;-) > > Kind Regards, > --Gary > > > Regards > > Pierre Métras I'm quite happy that my pet activity has found a new home. It was feeling alone on the old wiki.laptop.or

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
Tomeu Vizoso writes: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 04:54, wrote: >> I am happy to expand this to the list. I have raised the journal once >> or twice before but mainly kept quiet not wanting to be trollish. ... >> The journal and sharing are probably the two central things that >> distinguish sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
Tomeu Vizoso writes: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 20:20, Lucian Branescu > wrote: >> I'm new to Sugar, so I may be horribly wrong. >> >> But to me, the Journal seems more of an annoyance than anything else. >> A lot of the work I see done is towards bringing back some of the >> properties that regul

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: journal criticism (was Re: Re: Re: [IAEP] [RELEASE] TurtleArt-51)

2009-05-28 Thread James Zaki
I did not know there was much debate about this, because for me the journal in its current state made sense for the target audience of sugar. Understanding hierarchical file structures use the concepts of containers and recursion with no limits (except for total capacity). It is not naturally intu