[Sugar-devel] upstream AMO update (ASLO)

2009-06-09 Thread Josh Williams
Hey everyone, In case you didn't know, AMO just got a big update https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/ . Looks like a lot of the junk markup was removed so it will be easier to work with. However, since a lot of the markup has changed (for the better), the sugar-specific stylesheet for ASL

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Language Spanish

2009-06-09 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi Andres Translation related procedures where discussed not long ago in the OLPC-sur list, Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Andrés Arrieta Perréard < andres.ap.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > I could help with translations in Spanish, just tell me how to start and > where > > > On Tu

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Language Spanish

2009-06-09 Thread Andrés Arrieta Perréard
I could help with translations in Spanish, just tell me how to start and where On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:13 PM, David Farning wrote: > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > > Hi Andrés, > > > > On 9 Jun 2009, at 20:45, Andrés Arrieta Perréard wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> Could the fol

Re: [Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79?NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-09 Thread Gary C Martin
On 10 Jun 2009, at 02:29, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 10:16:12PM -0300, Andrés Ambrois wrote: >> On Tuesday 09 June 2009 10:07:19 pm Martin Dengler wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:46:07AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: There's another 'non-mesh' option possible for the

Re: [Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79?NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 10:16:12PM -0300, Andrés Ambrois wrote: > On Tuesday 09 June 2009 10:07:19 pm Martin Dengler wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:46:07AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: > > > There's another 'non-mesh' option possible for the '3 kids under a tree' > > > case. They will likely

Re: [Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79 NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-09 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 10:07:19 pm Martin Dengler wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:46:07AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: > > There's another 'non-mesh' option possible for the '3 kids under a tree' > > case. They will likely have no AP/infrastructure to connect to, so > > blanking the jabber serv

Re: [Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79 NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:46:07AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 10 Jun 2009, at 00:53, Martin Dengler wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:20:41AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >>> Hmmm this is an opportunity to display my ignorance and/or confusion, >>> but my XOs usually just "find" each other on

Re: [Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79 NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-09 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Tuesday 09 June 2009 08:20:41 pm Sean DALY wrote: > Hmmm this is an opportunity to display my ignorance and/or confusion, > but my XOs usually just "find" each other on the mesh... a club the > netbooks can't belong to... so back on the XOs I have to hunt and > click on the wireless network for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 02:09:16AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Martin Dengler > wrote: > > Definitely, a good feature to have.  I was just talking about what > > existed right now in SoaS (which is: no working updater, AFAIK). The patch I just sent should now enable

Re: [Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79 NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-09 Thread Gary C Martin
On 10 Jun 2009, at 00:53, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:20:41AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >> Hmmm this is an opportunity to display my ignorance and/or confusion, >> but my XOs usually just "find" each other on the mesh > > Unfortunately this 'just "find"' is actually a complex

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] remove questionable deletion of key python __init__.py files

2009-06-09 Thread Martin Dengler
--- sugar-update-control.spec |2 -- 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/sugar-update-control.spec b/sugar-update-control.spec index d5e16aa..09eda58 100644 --- a/sugar-update-control.spec +++ b/sugar-update-control.spec @@ -33,8 +33,6 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT mkdi

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread Sean DALY
I recently got help opening a bug ticket account, I'll try my hand at that thanks for your patient assistance Sean On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:53:06AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >> Intuitively, I would expect ASLO to be polled by Sugar >> machin

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:53:06AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > Intuitively, I would expect ASLO to be polled by Sugar > machines... in clicking, I expect the machine to figure out all by > itself what it needs to be up to date... Definitely, a good feature to have. I was just talking about what exi

Re: [Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79 NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 01:20:41AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > Hmmm this is an opportunity to display my ignorance and/or confusion, > but my XOs usually just "find" each other on the mesh Unfortunately this 'just "find"' is actually a complex process involving a few different software components wh

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread Sean DALY
many thanks Martin for finding that thread for me, I have so much going on I'm having trouble remembering keywords to look things up Actually what faked me out was the fine print about XO software update: it won't update to the latest Activity version on ASLO, just the latest OLPC supported Activi

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > umm... I'm trying to understand how that assists in keeping Activities > up-to-date... what plays the role of the FF browser, phoning in for > version availability? As far as FF goes, the FF updater ping the addons.mozilla.org periodically with a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread Sean DALY
umm... I'm trying to understand how that assists in keeping Activities up-to-date... what plays the role of the FF browser, phoning in for version availability? thanks Sean On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:04 AM, David Farning wrote: > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Sean DALY wrote: >> Yes, that's th

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:58:39AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > Yes, that's the procedure when running Sugar and using Browse... which > I wasn't doing. A couple of phrases removing the mystery will help us; > it's a lowering-the-barriers issue... we can't assume everyone will > alertly figure it out.

Re: [Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79 NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-09 Thread Sean DALY
Hmmm this is an opportunity to display my ignorance and/or confusion, but my XOs usually just "find" each other on the mesh... a club the netbooks can't belong to... so back on the XOs I have to hunt and click on the wireless network for each one (making the other XO avatars disappear, etc). There'

Re: [Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-09 Thread Bobby Powers
Hi Luke On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > folks, hi, > i might have mentioned some of this before, but wanted to emphasise a > few things - please bear with me if you've heard some of it before. > i'd been looking for python bindings to DOM model browser technol

Re: [Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79 NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-09 Thread Gary C Martin
On 9 Jun 2009, at 23:33, Sean DALY wrote: > outside bugtracker > > I'm not aware of the existence of any 802.11s USB adapters which could > be plugged into a netbook for mesh. > > That said may be a silly question but I'm a bit mystified about > getting my meshed XO-1s to play with my SoaS netbook

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > Yes, that's the procedure when running Sugar and using Browse... which > I wasn't doing. A couple of phrases removing the mystery will help us; > it's a lowering-the-barriers issue... we can't assume everyone will > alertly figure it out. > > After

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick boot animation sequence by tomorrow

2009-06-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 07:07:17PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > Ring of Dots > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#XO_Sugar_Boot_With_Overlap +1 pgpr0IzZ3cFPW.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread Sean DALY
Yes, that's the procedure when running Sugar and using Browse... which I wasn't doing. A couple of phrases removing the mystery will help us; it's a lowering-the-barriers issue... we can't assume everyone will alertly figure it out. After all, common sense tells you that Software Update in the Con

Re: [Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79 NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:33:12AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > outside bugtracker > > I'm not aware of the existence of any 802.11s USB adapters which could > be plugged into a netbook for mesh. Why would you want one? Most netbooks have one of 802.11{a,b,g}, which will serve Sugar use cases perfe

[Sugar-devel] meshing XOs with netbooks (WAS: Re: [Bugs] #79 NORM: SOAS should mesh network when possible)

2009-06-09 Thread Sean DALY
outside bugtracker I'm not aware of the existence of any 802.11s USB adapters which could be plugged into a netbook for mesh. That said may be a silly question but I'm a bit mystified about getting my meshed XO-1s to play with my SoaS netbooks, I have them join the same wifi AP but how to bridge

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread James Simmons
Sean DALY wrote: > GCompris is fine where it is; it is very well known in Europe and > elsewhere and has a five year headstart on us in word-of-mouth and > credibility with teachers. Although marketing/branding of GCompris has > been minimalist, it has a well-deserved reputation for quality. I'm >

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Announcing Fedora 11

2009-06-09 Thread bernie
We can start tracking the stable Fedora repositories in SoaS-2 and *maybe* create a SoaS-3 image tracking rawhide. A personal note: this Fedora release really shines. If you had tested and discarded a previous Fedora release due to stability or usability glitches, I recommend you try again. I ev

[Sugar-devel] [Invitation] Sugar Labs Market ing Meeting @ Tue Jun 9 5pm – 6pm (sugar-de v...@lists.sugarlabs.org)

2009-06-09 Thread Sean Daly
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[Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
folks, hi, i might have mentioned some of this before, but wanted to emphasise a few things - please bear with me if you've heard some of it before. i'd been looking for python bindings to DOM model browser technology for quite some time, and _eventually_ found it, in the most unlikely of places, i

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar

2009-06-09 Thread Sean DALY
Wow I can't wait to see that (can't on this machine) I'm interested in transcoding this to Ogg Theora, do you think we could ask him for a higher-quality source version I could transcode? is it CC, could we put it up on the Dailymotion site? Texas is Dell Foundation country. Hmmm... Sean On T

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread Sean DALY
Looking better all the time. For the moment, the site suffers from being ghettoized from the rest of the Sugar Labs site; you can get in, but you can't get out - there's no Sugar Labs navigation. Direct links coming in mean the rest of the site is invisible. To fix this (and the other sections too

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [IAEP] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-09 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi Sascha, we are outside of my technical abilities but I tried to translate what you said and put it on the wiki. If anyone would like to expand on this please do! http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Hardware Thanks On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Mon, Jun

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Language Spanish

2009-06-09 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > Hi Andrés, > > On 9 Jun 2009, at 20:45, Andrés Arrieta Perréard wrote: > >> Hi, >> Could the following activities be translated to Spanish? > > Just had a look on http://translate.sugarlabs.org and all but 2 are > already done. I would also li

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Language Spanish

2009-06-09 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Andrés, On 9 Jun 2009, at 20:45, Andrés Arrieta Perréard wrote: > Hi, > Could the following activities be translated to Spanish? Just had a look on http://translate.sugarlabs.org and all but 2 are already done. > Analyze Not in pootle (well I couldn't find it) > Write Translated > Moon

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC idea: Chart/graph-making activity

2009-06-09 Thread Amir Ansari
> Why no collaboration-like tube between activities? > > Are you referring to a "tube" strictly between two laptops (e.g. one > student runs Measure and another runs a charting tool) or also in > the case of two activities running concurrently on the same machine? Why not follow the way it was

[Sugar-devel] Texas Tech University work with XO/Sugar

2009-06-09 Thread John Tierney
Hello All, Just wanted to pass along this email and video to everyone to show others like ourselves our hard at work trying to highlight and increase the effectiveness of Sugar and the XO. Video is about 35min in length-well done and inspires like minded work to be done. Best, John Tierney >

[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Language Spanish

2009-06-09 Thread Andrés Arrieta Perréard
Hi, Could the following activities be translated to Spanish? Analyze Write Moon Jukebox Memorize Calculator Browse Implode thx, Alphinux ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick boot animation sequence by tomorrow

2009-06-09 Thread John Tierney
+1 for the ring-signifies Connectedness, Completeness, and Community > Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:07:17 +0200 > From: sdaly...@gmail.com > To: market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; i...@lists.sugarlabs.org; > sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > Subject: [Marketing] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick

Re: [Sugar-devel] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick boot animation sequence by tomorrow

2009-06-09 Thread Lucian Branescu
+1 for the ring 2009/6/9 Sean DALY : > We are on a tight schedule for the SoaS LinuxTag release and following > the mega-thread on the subject we have narrowed the choice down to two > variants: > > Progress Bar > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Animation_of_Eben.27s_Above_De

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 12:09:56PM -0500, James Simmons wrote: > Aleksey, > > That will teach me to open my mouth. :) > At the moment the only Activities > I'm really familiar with are my own, Read, and your Library Activity > which isn't finished (but would definitely be worthy otherwise). I

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread James Simmons
Aleksey, That will teach me to open my mouth. At the moment the only Activities I'm really familiar with are my own, Read, and your Library Activity which isn't finished (but would definitely be worthy otherwise). I'll have to add some more Activities to my XO and give them a try. Any sugg

[Sugar-devel] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick boot animation sequence by tomorrow

2009-06-09 Thread Sean DALY
We are on a tight schedule for the SoaS LinuxTag release and following the mega-thread on the subject we have narrowed the choice down to two variants: Progress Bar http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Animation_of_Eben.27s_Above_Design Ring of Dots http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/M

Re: [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 09:50:31AM -0500, James Simmons wrote: > The new style sheet for ASLO reminds me that something has bugged me > about the design of the site from the beginning. The site does not do a > good job of showing just how much is available. When you click on a > category you s

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread David Farning
I think the Recommended activities are still those which were uploaded early just to test the the recommendations worked. IIRC, for a long time search was more broken than recommendations Thus, search got the love. That being said, modifying and updating recommendations are handled through a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] collaborative testing session (tomorrow's meeting) reminder

2009-06-09 Thread David Farning
I'll tune in as well! Running Sugar Jhbuild on Ubuntu. david On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:16 AM, David Van Assche wrote: > Hi folks, >    This is a reminder about the collaborative sugar testing session we are > having tomorrow, Wednesday 10th June at 20:00 UTC (That is 4 pm EDT, 3pm > EST, 2 pm CST

[Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

2009-06-09 Thread James Simmons
The new style sheet for ASLO reminds me that something has bugged me about the design of the site from the beginning. The site does not do a good job of showing just how much is available. When you click on a category you see entries for three or four Activities, seemingly picked at random, a

Re: [Sugar-devel] collaborative testing session (tomorrow's meeting) reminder

2009-06-09 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 04:16:38PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote: > Hi folks, >This is a reminder about the collaborative sugar testing session we are > having tomorrow, Wednesday 10th June at 20:00 UTC (That is 4 pm EDT, 3pm > EST, 2 pm CST, 1 pm MST, and 12 pm PST, most of Europe that will be

[Sugar-devel] collaborative testing session (tomorrow's meeting) reminder

2009-06-09 Thread David Van Assche
Hi folks, This is a reminder about the collaborative sugar testing session we are having tomorrow, Wednesday 10th June at 20:00 UTC (That is 4 pm EDT, 3pm EST, 2 pm CST, 1 pm MST, and 12 pm PST, most of Europe that will be 9 pm, 8 pm for the UK) We will have a good 5-10 people present, but more

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Help to Find the PO file of Some Activities to able me to Translate Them

2009-06-09 Thread Gary C Martin
On 25 May 2009, at 21:02, David Van Assche wrote: > Well the main thing here is about demoing... I've taken it upon > myself to package about 50 activities... including fructose and > glucose... now... we have things like flash which isnt an xo bundle, > though many people believe it could/s

Re: [Sugar-devel] OT: determining memory usage of short-lived processes

2009-06-09 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 05:31:59AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: I've examined memory usage of long running processes (i.e. daemons and applications) in the past, no problems. But for my VCS comparison I need to determine the peak memory usage of all child processes (combined), which are rather s