Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar rawhide livecd image

2009-08-01 Thread Peter Robinson
>> I've done a Fedora Rawhide based snapshot. Now that the mass rebuild >> is done for the step up it i686 I'd like to get some testing done so >> that we can see what impact, if any, we'll see on the XO-1 with its >> i586+cmov processor so that we can get bugs filed and things fixed as >> early in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Maintaining activities for older releases (was Re: Initial implementation of toolbars design)

2009-08-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 05:48:57PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 16:48, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:37:24PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 16:33, Aleksey Lim wrote: > >> > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 03:19:46PM +0100, Gary C Martin wro

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

2009-08-01 Thread Art Hunkins
Did you mean something like: SoaS text is way too small when displayed on an XO-1? Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: "David Farning" To: "Art Hunkins" Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition? > Art, > > Would you mind taking a lo

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar rawhide livecd image

2009-08-01 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 07:02:47PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > I've done a Fedora Rawhide based snapshot. Now that the mass rebuild > is done for the step up it i686 I'd like to get some testing done so > that we can see what impact, if any, we'll see on the XO-1 with its > i586+cmov processor s

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

2009-08-01 Thread David Farning
Art, Would you mind taking a look at the bug tracker[1] and adding this issue as new bug if it is not already there. dev.sugarlabs.org david On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Art Hunkins wrote: > Second of two responses: > > Attached is my activity, OurMusic-1.xo. > > As it is, it gives a partial

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick File Structure - Summary of problems and potential solutions

2009-08-01 Thread David Farning
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > My original response went only to you (it seems like I'm having more > and more of this, sorry about that) so you in turn only replied to me. Google was having trouble with the Reply-to-all default in gmail and removed it June 16 a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Additional data for corrupted SoaS

2009-08-01 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:40:08PM +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: > > BTW, the SoaS Caroline gave me on SugarCamp (thanks!) is quite > unreliable in one of my computers (it also confirms my suspection > about the trouble she was having with my Assimilator software: > hardware flakeyness). If you're us

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

2009-08-01 Thread Art Hunkins
Second of two responses: Attached is my activity, OurMusic-1.xo. As it is, it gives a partial display on SoaS of the reduced screen layout (upper-left corner). The basic python script that illustrates my (very) basic coding is ourmusic.py. (Notice my dependence on text!) It, of course, doesn

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick File Structure - Summary of problems and potential solutions

2009-08-01 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
My original response went only to you (it seems like I'm having more and more of this, sorry about that) so you in turn only replied to me. Here it is for all the list to benefit :) On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 01:12, Caroline Meeks wrote: > All, > This was my attempt to put together a list from the br

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

2009-08-01 Thread Art Hunkins
First of two responses: I've discovered a related problem: I accidentally booted my XO with an SoaS USB drive in one of its slots. I didn't expect it to boot - *unaided* - into SoaS (which it did). Is this expected? At any rate, I found ordinary text (such as on the Terminal and Logs activiti

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Bugs] #1117 NORM: Image collection from Museum of Fine Arts in Boston

2009-08-01 Thread David Farning
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 12:58:09PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 12:33:22PM -, SugarLabs Bugs wrote: >> > #1117: Image collection from Museum of Fine Arts in Boston >> > +

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick File Structure - Summary of problems and potential solutions

2009-08-01 Thread Walter Bender
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > Here is a summary of how I see the problems and the solutions we are > evaluating. Let me know if this is correct. > Problems we'd like solve: > To be acceptable a solution should solve all of these problems. > > Reduce the frequency of sticks

Re: [Sugar-devel] Call for Help: SoaS & Display Manager (Auto-Login)

2009-08-01 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Regarding getting auto-login to work after restarting X. Yesterday I looked at the slim sources and it seems at first sight easy to add auto login of the default user after the first login. Any interest in me trying to implement this? If we use an extra option to slim we could push this change ups

[Sugar-devel] sugar rawhide livecd image

2009-08-01 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, I've done a Fedora Rawhide based snapshot. Now that the mass rebuild is done for the step up it i686 I'd like to get some testing done so that we can see what impact, if any, we'll see on the XO-1 with its i586+cmov processor so that we can get bugs filed and things fixed as early in the c

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [pygtk] ANNOUNCE: the return of pygtkscintilla

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, this might be interesting to activity authors and also for editing source in the shell. Regards, Tomeu -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 19:20 Subject: [pygtk] ANNOUNCE: the return of pygtkscintilla To: py...@daa.com.au Hi all, I've done a prelimin

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.85.3

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, this Sugar release restores Rainbow support, meaning that you can try and give feedback after installing Rainbow. == Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.85.3.tar.bz2 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.85.3

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, this release includes the new toolbar design. Congratulations to everybody that worked together to accomplish this. Now let's fix the bugs :) == Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.85.3.tar.bz2 == Fixed tickets == * #1102 Make the

[Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick File Structure - Summary of problems and potential solutions

2009-08-01 Thread Caroline Meeks
Here is a summary of how I see the problems and the solutions we are evaluating. Let me know if this is correct. Problems we'd like solve: To be acceptable a solution should solve all of these problems. 1. Reduce the frequency of sticks not being bootable after usage 2. Allow a VM system to

Re: [Sugar-devel] safer customization key (was Re: will the one true browse please stand up?)

2009-08-01 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/8/1 Tomeu Vizoso : >> What do you propose doing? > > Leaving packaging to the experts (the distributions) and focusing on > being a good upstream -- only stepping into the packaging areas where > the distro people are lacking. > > I think activities should be packaged b

Re: [Sugar-devel] safer customization key (was Re: will the one true browse please stand up?)

2009-08-01 Thread David Farning
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/8/1 Tomeu Vizoso : >> What do you propose doing? > > Leaving packaging to the experts (the distributions) and focusing on > being a good upstream -- only stepping into the packaging areas where > the distro people are lacking. > > I think a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Need Help: usb drive not visible in the journal

2009-08-01 Thread sumit singh
Hello sir, Thank You for your reply. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > What version of Sugar are you running? I am on sugar 0.82 ( 767 build). It was working fine since the last 4-5 months but the problem started suddenly yesterday. > > re copy-from-journal, if you use the -

[Sugar-devel] Maintaining activities for older releases (was Re: Initial implementation of toolbars design)

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 16:48, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:37:24PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 16:33, Aleksey Lim wrote: >> > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 03:19:46PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: >> >> On 1 Aug 2009, at 14:51, Aleksey Lim wrote: >> >> >> >> >On

Re: [Sugar-devel] Need Help: usb drive not visible in the journal

2009-08-01 Thread Jim Simmons
Sumit, I've experienced this on my own XO. One thing I've found that helps in this situation is to remove the hidden file that Sugar puts on the drive. I think it's named .olpc, but in any case it begins with a period. Sometimes if this file is present the thumb drive will not appear to be moun

Re: [Sugar-devel] Call for Help: SoaS & Display Manager (Auto-Login)

2009-08-01 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 16:48, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> I could use a hand with auto-login on SoaS. We've been using slim so far >> but will switch in the near future (in fact, I already committed a >> change in GIT), as we also need to login automatic

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-08-01 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Tomeu, On 1 Aug 2009, at 15:37, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Well, I have around 14(including TamTamMini) activities on git.sl.o to switch to new toolbars.. so you can wish me luck. >>> >>> Good luck! >>> >>> Quick question: Are you going to try and support existing >>> deployments and keep a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Book bundles and Read

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 04:17, Samuel Klein wrote: > Journal needs to cover these features (whatever they resolve to be). Every >> activity author should not be inventing various implementations of a "book >> shelf" UI concepts for dealing with a monoculture 'collection' of objects. >> Imagine if I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-08-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:37:24PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 16:33, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 03:19:46PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: > >> On 1 Aug 2009, at 14:51, Aleksey Lim wrote: > >> > >> >On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:12:50PM +0100, Gary C Martin wro

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Reposition?

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 21:13, Art Hunkins wrote: > I finally managed to see a mockup of my XO Activity on one of my SoaS setups > (large monitor). > > As I feared, everything displayed in the upper left corner of the screen. > > I know this issue has been frequently discussed here. > > Can someone

Re: [Sugar-devel] Call for Help: SoaS & Display Manager (Auto-Login)

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 16:48, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I could use a hand with auto-login on SoaS. We've been using slim so far > but will switch in the near future (in fact, I already committed a > change in GIT), as we also need to login automatically after killing / > resta

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 16:33, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 03:19:46PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: >> On 1 Aug 2009, at 14:51, Aleksey Lim wrote: >> >> >On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:12:50PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: >> >>On 31 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> >> >>

[Sugar-devel] About the need for .xo bundles (again) (was Re: safer customization key (was Re: will the one true browse please stand up?))

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 15:47, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/8/1 Tomeu Vizoso : >> What do you propose doing? > > Leaving packaging to the experts (the distributions) and focusing on > being a good upstream -- only stepping into the packaging areas where > the distro people are lacking. > > I think act

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-08-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 03:19:46PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 1 Aug 2009, at 14:51, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > >On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:12:50PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: > >>On 31 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Simon Schampijer wrote: > >> > 1). I was hoping for more feedback before we lock things

Re: [Sugar-devel] How big might a full install of Fedora Sugar be?

2009-08-01 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
>>> What about doing a F11 GNOME install to a large USB drive, yum installing >>> Sugar stuff, removing the unwanted bits, resizing the partitions to >>> desirable size, and then dd ing that to a desirable USB stick (marked >>> bootable) as a master img? >> >> And do that process again each time yo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-08-01 Thread Gary C Martin
On 1 Aug 2009, at 14:51, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:12:50PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: >> On 31 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> 1). I was hoping for more feedback before we lock things down, but it's been pretty quiet. I was hoping to hack Turtle

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-08-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:12:50PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 31 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Simon Schampijer wrote: > > >>1). I was hoping for more feedback before we lock things down, > >>but it's > >>been pretty quiet. I was hoping to hack TurtleArt with a temporary > >>toolbar imitation and get

Re: [Sugar-devel] safer customization key (was Re: will the one true browse please stand up?)

2009-08-01 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/1 Tomeu Vizoso : > What do you propose doing? Leaving packaging to the experts (the distributions) and focusing on being a good upstream -- only stepping into the packaging areas where the distro people are lacking. I think activities should be packaged by distros and we should use their s

Re: [Sugar-devel] How big might a full install of Fedora Sugar be?

2009-08-01 Thread David Farning
2009/7/31 Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) : >> What about doing a F11 GNOME install to a large USB drive, yum installing >> Sugar stuff, removing the unwanted bits, resizing the partitions to >> desirable size, and then dd ing that to a desirable USB stick (marked >> bootable) as a master img? > > And do

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-08-01 Thread Gary C Martin
On 31 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> 1). I was hoping for more feedback before we lock things down, but >> it's >> been pretty quiet. I was hoping to hack TurtleArt with a temporary >> toolbar imitation and get some real usability input from kids, but >> not >> sure we have the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #1117 NORM: Image collection from Museum of Fine Arts in Boston

2009-08-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 12:58:09PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 12:33:22PM -, SugarLabs Bugs wrote: > > #1117: Image collection from Museum of Fine Arts in Boston > > +--- > > Reporter: walter

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #1117 NORM: Image collection from Museum of Fine Arts in Boston

2009-08-01 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 12:33:22PM -, SugarLabs Bugs wrote: > #1117: Image collection from Museum of Fine Arts in Boston > +--- > Reporter: walter | Owner: tomeu > Type: e

Re: [Sugar-devel] Additional data for corrupted SoaS

2009-08-01 Thread Sascha Silbe
BTW, the SoaS Caroline gave me on SugarCamp (thanks!) is quite unreliable in one of my computers (it also confirms my suspection about the trouble she was having with my Assimilator software: hardware flakeyness). If you're using this run of sticks at the GPA, you can add it to the list of po

Re: [Sugar-devel] Need Help: usb drive not visible in the journal

2009-08-01 Thread Walter Bender
What version of Sugar are you running? re copy-from-journal, if you use the -q flag, it will search on the title and description fields. copy-from-journal -q 'title of some journal object' filename with copy-to-journal, it is it important to use a -m flag copy to journal foo.png -m image/png -

[Sugar-devel] Need Help: usb drive not visible in the journal

2009-08-01 Thread sumit singh
Hi all, I am facing a sort of weird problem at this point. On my xo, my usb drives are not visible in the journal. I mean the icons at the bottom of the journal are not visible. However, to my surprise my usb drives(pendrives) are mounted and I can access them from the terminal. I have tested it w

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-110

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 20:38, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > Hi, > I think the version jump is intentional to allow for intermediate > stable releases targetted for 0.84 if the need arises. If someone > finds a critical issue in Browse 103, Simon can always release 104 > with the fix and nothing more

Re: [Sugar-devel] safer customization key (was Re: will the one true browse please stand up?)

2009-08-01 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 20:23, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/7/31 Joshua N Pritikin : >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:52:06PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: >>> 2009/7/31 Joshua N Pritikin : >>> > That was not my experience. Where does the customization key code live >>> > in GIT? >>> >>> Here: >>> http://d

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] community influence on development

2009-08-01 Thread Bastien
Walter Bender writes: > Maybe someone more > deployment oriented should run for the Oversight Board to ensure we > have better representation there > (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance/Oversight_Board/2009-2010-candidates). I jumped in. I hesitated because I won't be reachable