Re: [Sugar-devel] ESSIDs and BSSIDs, NM and Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread James Cameron
Attached please find a program that can be run from the Terminal activity or the text console to display signal level, noise level and link quality at ten updates per second. It is useful for performing simple measurements of RF coverage on an XO associated with an access point. The levels are

Re: [Sugar-devel] Karma IRC meeting - August 11

2009-08-11 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
2009/8/10 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu Having said that I certainly believe that such a feature would be overkill at this point, there's a bunch of much higher priority tasks that we need to tackle before and it's important not to lose focus of our main goals. Sorry, I somehow missed your

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to not make a window?

2009-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 07:09, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: I am trying to create a sugar activity that wraps a simple X application.  Specifically, my activity is a standard python activity, inheriting from the sugar.activity.activity.Activity, but it has no GUI.  

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/10/2009 11:56 PM, Lucian Branescu wrote: This a bit long-winded, but please bear with me. If you know my project, skip to the end. I've been working on Browse in the context of GSoC. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified Here's my blog http://honeyweb.wordpress.com and you can get the

Re: [Sugar-devel] multiple activity versions installed simultaneously (was Re: [Bugs] #1042 UNSP: cannot install new activity version)

2009-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:24, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 10 Aug 2009, at 17:24, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/10 Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com: Learner-generated activity patches, perhaps?  Like, we're under a tree and here's my patched Terminal/Pippy/Speak that you

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-08-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 07/11/2009 06:01 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: Bryan Berry wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 07:45 +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, Our current trac instance is missing some basic functionality: - versions per component: a really simple enhancement would be to have a text field (maybe some

[Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, the functionality to create ad-hoc networks has been created. Two little things are missing to finish this feature [1]: a) transmitting the creator's color (patch pending) b) new icons for the ad-hoc networks I think it would help, to have a new icon for the ad-hoc network to distinguish

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: I think it would help, to have a new icon for the ad-hoc network to distinguish them. Could be a badged wireless network one? Or is the mesh icon appropriate? Or something completely new? I think new icons would be best, to distinguish from the

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1146 UNSP: (Default) Text is too small. This can be easily seen even on the (SoaS) login screen.

2009-08-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 03:59:25PM -0400, Art Hunkins wrote: This happens on all text (i.e., not-image) display, to my knowledge. Obvious examples are the Log and Terminal Activities. The most problemmatic examples are when text is used in a PyGTK boxed context (such as the 4 activities

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Lucian Branescu
In fact, there is the option to install the SSB activity as well, http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/create%20ssb.png rgs on IRC suggested that the 'Keep in Journal' button could either save an offline version by itself or there could be a drop down with several options. About modifying SSBs,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/11/2009 11:50 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de: I think it would help, to have a new icon for the ad-hoc network to distinguish them. Could be a badged wireless network one? Or is the mesh icon appropriate? Or something completely new? I think new

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS-for-XO-1 image

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:41:29AM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: FYI, there is a substantial difference in performance with and without compmgr when asking Read Etexts to speak and highlight a text. compmgr slows things down a lot. Thanks for the report. I've disabled xcompmgr in

[Sugar-devel] New SoaS-on-XO-1 build done: soasxo51

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
A new SoaS-on-XO-1 build soasxo51 is available. NAND size (change): 0.61G (896K) ext3 size (change): 1.26G (1612K) Package changes: --- soasxo50.tree.packages.txt 2009-08-08 14:12:26.0 + +++ soasxo51.tree.packages.txt 2009-08-11 02:08:06.0 + @@ -102,7 +102,7 @@

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS-for-XO-1 image

2009-08-11 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
I noticed two more bugs: - Record does not detect the XO's camera. - Many Pippy examples do not work because of failing on import pippy Possible an include path is not being set correctly? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS-for-XO-1 image

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 04:03:15PM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: I noticed two more bugs: Thanks for the reports. If anyone has time while testing (just in case; I know most of us don't), there is a Fedora bug tracking all the open OLPC-XO-related bugs that often has known issues:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Aug 2009, at 11:21, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 08/11/2009 11:50 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de: I think it would help, to have a new icon for the ad-hoc network to distinguish them. Could be a badged wireless network one? Or is the mesh icon

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Peter Robinson
2009/8/11 Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de: I think it would help, to have a new icon for the ad-hoc network to distinguish them. Could be a badged wireless network one? Or is the mesh icon appropriate? Or something completely new? I think new icons would be best, to distinguish from the

[Sugar-devel] HTML 5 article and validator

2009-08-11 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Finally had a chance to read a quick intro article to HTML 5 ( http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/07/16/html5-and-the-future-of-the-web/) which also linked to an (experimental) HTML 5 validator ( http://html5.validator.nu/). I'm thinking especially the validator could come in quite handy for

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug tracker enhancements

2009-08-11 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 11-08-2009 a las 10:59 +0200, Simon Schampijer escribió: @Infra-people, is it possible to get an own instance for soas? Sure, but... does it really have to be Trac? :-) -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/

Re: [Sugar-devel] Share button in the activity toolbar (from the toolbar redesign thread)

2009-08-11 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 08/06/2009 04:59 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 08/06/2009 03:37 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de   wrote: On 07/31/2009 05:14 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: On

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Deployment feedback braindump

2009-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 20:03, Martin Langhoffmartin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Daniel., excellent post - skipping to the let's make it deployable part, I have to say I agree with all you say. - Some comments below On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Aug 2009, at 12:08, Peter Robinson wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de: I think it would help, to have a new icon for the ad-hoc network to distinguish them. Could be a badged wireless network one? Or is the mesh icon appropriate? Or something completely new? I

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:35:15PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Tomeu: If has made it into one of the XO builds, I can run tests next week (3 XOs + 1 Mac). It's in my SoaS-on-XO-1 builds (and other SoaS builds, I believe). Regards, --Gary Martin pgpbBmIo3eeth.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [Sugar-devel] Share button in the activity toolbar (from the toolbar redesign thread)

2009-08-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:02:10AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 08/06/2009 04:59 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 08/06/2009 03:37 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Simon

Re: [Sugar-devel] Share button in the activity toolbar (from the toolbar redesign thread)

2009-08-11 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:02:10AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 08/06/2009 04:59 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 08/06/2009 03:37 PM, Eben

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 08/11/2009 11:50 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de: I think it would help, to have a new icon for the ad-hoc network to distinguish them. Could be a badged wireless network one?

Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML 5 article and validator

2009-08-11 Thread Bryan Berry
On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 17:04 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Finally had a chance to read a quick intro article to HTML 5 (http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/07/16/html5-and-the-future-of-the-web/) which also linked to an (experimental) HTML 5 validator (http://html5.validator.nu/).

Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML 5 article and validator

2009-08-11 Thread Lucian Branescu
There's realStorage (http://code.google.com/p/realstorage/), but I don't know if it's mature enough. You could always use one of the various JS ORMs, that usually have several backends, as varied as html5, gears, cookie, flash cookie, activex, etc. 2009/8/11 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: On

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS-for-XO-1 image

2009-08-11 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
To turn soasxo51.tree.tar.lzma into an acceptable copy-nand image, I only need to do mkfs.jffs2 -n -e128KiB -r $ROOT -o $IMG.tmp sumtool -n -p -e 128KiB -i $IMG.tmp -o $IMG crcimg $IMG Correct? -- American? Vote on the National Initiative for Democracy, http://votep2.us

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS-for-XO-1 image

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 07:29:58PM +0530, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: To turn soasxo51.tree.tar.lzma into an acceptable copy-nand image, I only need to do mkfs.jffs2 -n -e128KiB -r $ROOT -o $IMG.tmp sumtool -n -p -e 128KiB -i $IMG.tmp -o $IMG crcimg $IMG Correct? Yes, but may I suggest

[Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11

2009-08-11 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. Daniel Drake started a deployment-centric thread [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-August/007651.html] about Sugar's direction and goals and the role that Sugar Labs should be playing. Much of the discussion is a rehash of issues we have been discussing since

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Christian Marc Schmidt
Hi Lucian Can you explain to me what SSB means? Sorry for my naivete, it's probably perfectly clear to everyone else. Generally these look fine, but I think we could probably clarify the interaction a bit after you give me a few pointers on what you are trying to do. Thanks! Christian On Mon,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Lucian Branescu
Silly me. Here's the proper link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site-specific_browser 2009/8/11 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: Sorry, it's my fault. Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSB It's a specialised Browser that runs a single web site. It may be customised for that certain

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate paper cut bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-11 Thread Paul Fox
martin wrote: In the _completely hypothetical_ case that I had some time and chance to spin a 8.2.x release aimed at fixing the paper cuts[1] and low-risk bugs that hinder XO-1 deployability _today_ in the field - have *you* got any candidates? Tell me about them :-) well, touchpad issues

Re: [Sugar-devel] ESSIDs and BSSIDs, NM and Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Andrés Nacelle
Hello again people, I´m really happy to see you gave me some feedback. Lets see if I can clear out all points you've mentioned and put a beet more clear some other which I mentioned before with some lack of details On 11 Aug 2009 James Cameron The instantaneous signal strengths change very

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Lucian Branescu
Sorry, it's my fault. Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSB It's a specialised Browser that runs a single web site. It may be customised for that certain web site. An example is Mozilla Prism. If you want more info, read the webified wiki page and my blog, but it's a lot to read. 2009/8/11

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: From the user POV they are the same I guess. A local network, that does not need any infrastructure. I disagree. The mesh connections are automatic, and the presence of them does not indicate the presence of another computer like an ad-hoc network

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate paper cut bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-11 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/11 Paul Fox p...@laptop.org: one thing we've recently realized that would be very low risk would be to change the xset command in /usr/bin/olpc-session from xset 7/4 0 to either xset 7/6 0 or xset 7/4 1. What effect does this have? Daniel ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/11/2009 02:35 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: On 11 Aug 2009, at 12:08, Peter Robinson wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de: I think it would help, to have a new icon for the ad-hoc network to distinguish them. Could be a badged wireless network one? Or is the mesh icon

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate paper cut bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Paul Foxp...@laptop.org wrote: if nothing else, a next release _must_ be built with a modular mouse driver... Hmmm. The 5th reply makes a beeline to must rebuild the kernel. Not quite a record, but pretty good performance I have to say ;-) I understand the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/11/2009 03:49 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 08/11/2009 11:50 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de: I think it would help, to have a new icon for the ad-hoc network to distinguish

[Sugar-devel] How is the 'default' string in '.sugar/default' determined?

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
In the Sugar internals, how do you obtain the Sugar config storage directory? Moreover, what is the /correct/, recommended way to do it, one that will work on .82, .84 .86 from activities, Sugar Shell code... and cronjobs (that run under the same user, but different ENV, and not spawned by sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: From the user POV they are the same I guess. A local network, that does not need any infrastructure. I disagree. The mesh connections are automatic, and the presence of them does not indicate the presence of another

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: I wonder if the ad-hoc network will scale up to that number of users :/ Though I am not an expert in this area. Maybe Daniel has some more insights on this topic. Yes. Ad-hoc networks do not scale at all because they are range limited. They also

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/11 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: I am becoming very confused.  Why does Sugar place an ownership concept on an ad-hoc network? Just in principle. Have you tried it? Create a network and it will be called Ben's network I'd be relatively confident that I could find Ben on

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/11 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: I am becoming very confused. Why does Sugar place an ownership concept on an ad-hoc network? Just in principle. Have you tried it? Create a network and it will be called Ben's network I'd be relatively confident

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/11 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Hmm... so if other people join that network, and then I leave, does the network not persist?  I haven't experimented with this yet. yes, it will persist ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 08/11/2009 03:49 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de  wrote: On 08/11/2009 11:50 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: I wonder if the ad-hoc network will scale up to that number of users :/ Though I am not an expert in this area. Maybe Daniel has some more insights on this topic. Yes. Ad-hoc networks do not scale at all because they are

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Peter Robinson
Hmm... so if other people join that network, and then I leave, does the network not persist?  I haven't experimented with this yet. yes, it will persist Really? My understanding of the ad-hoc network is that it basically puts the user that creates it wifi card into ad-hoc AP mode and that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Aug 2009, at 16:11, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: From the user POV they are the same I guess. A local network, that does not need any infrastructure. I disagree. The mesh connections are automatic, and the presence of them does not indicate

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/11 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: Hmm... so if other people join that network, and then I leave, does the network not persist?  I haven't experimented with this yet. yes, it will persist Really? My understanding of the ad-hoc network is that it basically puts the user that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/11/2009 05:42 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de: I wonder if the ad-hoc network will scale up to that number of users :/ Though I am not an expert in this area. Maybe Daniel has some more insights on this topic. Yes. Ad-hoc networks do not scale at

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/11 Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com: H. Are you sure this is an accurate statement? I was under the impression that mesh forwarding support had been removed/disabled from OLPCs implementation a long time ago, since soon after the Mongolia deployment. Mesh was killing the wireless

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate paper cut bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-11 Thread Paul Fox
daniel wrote: 2009/8/11 Paul Fox p...@laptop.org: one thing we've recently realized that would be very low risk would be to change the xset command in /usr/bin/olpc-session from xset 7/4 0 to either xset 7/6 0 or xset 7/4 1. What effect does this have? see man xset as a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate paper cut bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-11 Thread Paul Fox
martin wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Paul Foxp...@laptop.org wrote: if nothing else, a next release _must_ be built with a modular mouse driver... Hmmm. The 5th reply makes a beeline to must rebuild the kernel. Not quite a record, but pretty good performance I have to say

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1146 UNSP: (Default) Text is too small. This can be easily seen even on the (SoaS) login screen.

2009-08-11 Thread Art Hunkins
Aleksey, To clarify my bug: SoaS text is not just too small in a given Activity; text is too small in SoaS *overall*. SoaS's default font size seems to be 10 - the same as for XO-1. Any text that SoaS prints seems to be size 10. For me to get readable text, I need to raise all instances (in

Re: [Sugar-devel] #1146 UNSP: (Default) Text is too small. This can be easily seen even on the (SoaS) login screen.

2009-08-11 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Art Hunkinsabhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Aleksey, To clarify my bug: SoaS text is not just too small in a given Activity; text is too small in SoaS *overall*. SoaS's default font size seems to be 10 - the same as for XO-1. Any text that SoaS prints seems to be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/11/2009 12:14 PM, Lucian Branescu wrote: In fact, there is the option to install the SSB activity as well, http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/create%20ssb.png Yes seen that. rgs on IRC suggested that the 'Keep in Journal' button could either save an offline version by itself or there

Re: [Sugar-devel] ESSIDs and BSSIDs, NM and Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Andrés Nacelle
Hello, On 7 Aug 09 Martin Langhoff posted that in presence of 2 identical SSID, the XO will always connect to the same BSSID. It happens that during the tests I've been doing lately, and wrote you about, happened exactly the opposite, the XO moved from one to another AP all the time. I'm saying

Re: [Sugar-devel] ESSIDs and BSSIDs, NM and Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 19:02, Andrés Nacelleanace...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: Hello, On 7 Aug 09 Martin Langhoff posted that in presence of 2 identical SSID, the XO will always connect to the same BSSID. It happens that during the tests I've been doing lately, and wrote you about,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: On 08/11/2009 12:14 PM, Lucian Branescu wrote: In fact, there is the option to install the SSB activity as well, http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/create%20ssb.png Yes seen that. rgs on IRC suggested that the 'Keep in Journal' button could

[Sugar-devel] New Activities on a.sl.o was Sugar Digest 2009-08-11

2009-08-11 Thread Caroline Meeks
===In the community=== 3. Gonzalo Odiard reported on a successful [http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2009-August/004099.html Sugar Day Argentina on the Sur list.] Gonzalo also describes three new activities: [http://190.0.162.1/godiard/sugar/Domino/6/Domino.xo], a game where the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: On 08/11/2009 12:14 PM, Lucian Branescu wrote: In fact, there is the option to install the SSB activity as well, http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/create%20ssb.png

[Sugar-devel] code review guidelines updated

2009-08-11 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, have tried to clarify and explain the rationale behind the code review process in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Code_Review http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Code_guidelines Would welcome any comments. Thanks, Tomeu

Re: [Sugar-devel] code review guidelines updated

2009-08-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/11/2009 07:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi, have tried to clarify and explain the rationale behind the code review process in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Code_Review http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Code_guidelines Would welcome any comments.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] Ad-hoc networks - New Icons

2009-08-11 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Daniel, On 11 Aug 2009, at 17:19, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/8/11 Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com: H. Are you sure this is an accurate statement? I was under the impression that mesh forwarding support had been removed/disabled from OLPCs implementation a long time ago, since soon

Re: [Sugar-devel] Share button in the activity toolbar (from the toolbar redesign thread)

2009-08-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/11/2009 03:42 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:02:10AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: On 08/06/2009 04:59 PM, Simon

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Aug 2009, at 08:17, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 08/10/2009 11:56 PM, Lucian Branescu wrote: This a bit long-winded, but please bear with me. If you know my project, skip to the end. I've been working on Browse in the context of GSoC. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified Here's my

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Lucian Branescu
View source would only be used for editing small things, like TurtleArt code blocks and userstyles, but no actual activity code. The activity would offer a list of pseudo-files that are to be edited by users. Changes to these would be applied immediately in the activity, so it would be easier to

Re: [Sugar-devel] ESSIDs and BSSIDs, NM and Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Andrés Nacelle
Tomeu, to tell the truth I haven't done an equivalent test on this situation but it's in my to do list. Right now I'm using my day to day experience, in which I've been in presence more than once of a ESSID with different BSSID, for example my neighbour had the same wireless router than me (hence

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Gary C Martin
On 11 Aug 2009, at 18:25, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: On 08/11/2009 12:14 PM, Lucian Branescu wrote: In fact, there is the option to install the SSB activity as well,

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] replace Keep and Stop accelerators

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
This commit replaces the Keep and Stop accelerators from the Terminal's activity toolbar, since the default accelerators are quite heavily used keyboard shortcuts: Ctrl-s and Ctrl-q. These old defaults are replaced with shift-ed equivalents: Ctrl-Shift-s and Ctrl-Shift-q. This is consistent with

Re: [Sugar-devel] ESSIDs and BSSIDs, NM and Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:49:21AM -0300, Andr?s Nacelle wrote: First of all thanks James for taking your time and reading the stuff I send and giving me such a complete response. Getting into what you were saying, I'm aware of the high dynamics under the signal sensing and reception, because

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] tool accelerator keys add objects to the world

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
Make it easy to add lots of objects to the world quickly by drawing one shape, then pressing the key of the shape tool a few times to add a few copies of that object to the tool. Erase objects by hovering and pressing E (the erase tool key). Reduces the need to click the mouse while moving it,

[Sugar-devel] Results of today's Jabber Testing

2009-08-11 Thread Caroline Meeks
I worked with the RIT contingent and Dave Farning today to do some collaboration testing. We tested with 8 computers on a rarely used dev XS system hosted by Solution Grove. We had some UI challenges getting connected but once we were all connected there seemed to be no particular problems or

Re: [Sugar-devel] code review guidelines updated

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Dengler
Jim, On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 06:58:10PM -0500, Jim Simmons wrote: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:27:24 +0200 From: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org [the] rationale behind the code review process in the wiki [follows] I have already recommended to someone that wanted to modify one of my

Re: [Sugar-devel] code review guidelines updated

2009-08-11 Thread Jim Simmons
Tomeu, When Aleksey made changes to Read Etexts to support the gstreamer espeak plugin he had written he made a clone of the Activity in gitorious, and later this clone was merged back into the mainline. I thought this worked pretty well from my standpoint because I could look at his code before

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-11 Thread Felipe López Toledo
I would suggest a mechanism to export all or just the selected SSB sites and the import feature Gary C Martin wrote: On 11 Aug 2009, at 18:25, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer

Re: [Sugar-devel] Results of today's Jabber Testing

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: I worked with the RIT contingent and Dave Farning today to do some collaboration testing. We tested with 8 computers on a rarely used dev XS system hosted by Solution Grove. Interesting! Your report is a bit

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Art-61

2009-08-11 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Sugar Platform: from 0.82 to 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29211 Release notes: * fixed problem with es translation * fixed save/load problem on old systems (767) Reviewer comments: Trusted

[Sugar-devel] WatchMe-1, a VNC activity

2009-08-11 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Announcing WatchMe-1, an activity that brings VNC to Sugar. How to try it: On two Sugar instances: 1. su -c yum install gtk-vnc-python (or equivalent for your operating system) 2. Install http://bemasc.net/~bens/WatchMe-1.xo 3. Start the activity on

Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML 5 article and validator

2009-08-11 Thread S Page
2009/8/11 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Offline_resources_in_Firefox it appears to be very specific to firefox Yes, that's talking about JS access to Mozilla nsXyz interfaces. However... http://dev.w3.org/html5/webstorage/ It sounds like some browser