[Sugar-devel] Chakra (iPhone style;-) - Stage 1

2009-08-14 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hi, I just commited an early version of a Chakra's Stage 1 as suggested by Bryan in his latest blog entry ( http://karmaproject.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/building-a-better-chakra-some-ideas/#comments ). Cheers, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com e-mail:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Physics] JSON persistence

2009-08-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:03:30AM -0500, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: The JSON support has been up in git for a couple of days. What's next? I guess we need to do lots of testing. I would like to help more with testing but I don't know how to install git inside SoaS. Just run: sudo yum -y

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar frozen when trying to register.. bug in idmgr?

2009-08-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 19:22, Raul Gutierrez Segalesr...@rieder.net.py wrote: Hi, Has anybody experienced Sugar (0.82) freezing when trying to register against the server? I was unable to register (although connectivity seemed fine) and when sniffing the network I saw: 172.18.0.1.8080

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/13/2009 12:43 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 08/12/2009 07:36 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 18:54, Christian Marc Schmidtchristianm...@gmail.com wrote: Great--should we plan on holding a design meeting this Sunday? I can be available after 10am EST (2pm UTC). Sounds

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/13/2009 02:42 PM, Walter Bender wrote: I guess my example wasn't as clear as it could have been. The idea is to use the the button, but to have the submenu show up on the right (as shown) instead of below, as in the example that had been previously circulated. So, yes, we'd keep the

Re: [Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

2009-08-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 23:16, Sascha Silbesascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 04:32:08PM -0300, Gabriel Eirea wrote: 2) She saves Write documents in the pendrive, then she opens them at home with KUbuntu and OpenOffice, then she saves the modified document in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar frozen when trying to register.. bug in idmgr?

2009-08-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Raul Gutierrez Segalesr...@rieder.net.py wrote: Has anybody experienced Sugar (0.82) freezing when trying to register against the server? I was unable to register (although connectivity seemed fine) and when sniffing the network I saw: 172.18.0.1.8080

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Physics] JSON persistence

2009-08-14 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Asaf, On 14 Aug 2009, at 06:03, Asaf Paris Mandoki wrote: The JSON support has been up in git for a couple of days. What's next? I guess we need to do lots of testing. I'm travelling back home this weekend, I'm hoping to get my additional code changes in and tested ready for a release

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity toolbar redesign: What to do with 'simple' activities?

2009-08-14 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Simon, On 14 Aug 2009, at 09:31, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 08/13/2009 12:43 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 08/12/2009 07:36 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 18:54, Christian Marc Schmidtchristianm...@gmail.com wrote: Great--should we plan on holding a design meeting

Re: [Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

2009-08-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/8/13 Gabriel Eirea gei...@gmail.com: Hi all, I'm sending below the original text (in Spanish) of a teacher friend's request. I'll try to translate her main concerns. 1) Mesh network doesn't work. Very few kids can get in the same network. She claims it got worse with the latest update

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 20:17, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying... all I said was we need more data from the field Well, I also understood that you said that it wasn't obvious enough. Which surprised me after all the noise lately

Re: [Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

2009-08-14 Thread Manusheel Gupta
Tomeu, 5) SocialCalc save and restore doesn't work. After saving, there is a Journal entry but when they open it the information is not there. Manu, know anything about it? I guess having a ticket with the activity logs would help here. Yes, this bug was existing in an earlier version of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Chakra (iPhone style;-) - Stage 1

2009-08-14 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
2009/8/14 Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com I just commited an early version of a Chakra's Stage 1 as suggested by Bryan in his latest blog entry ( http://karmaproject.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/building-a-better-chakra-some-ideas/#comments ). Added very early versions of

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS with SD cards irregularities

2009-08-14 Thread Bill Kerr
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: [CC list trimmed quite a bit] On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 04:20:17PM +0930, Bill Kerr wrote: aborted boot: I then tried tab anyway and got: linux0 check0 local Please try typing linux0 rootwait

[Sugar-devel] Engineering committee

2009-08-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, Some questions were risen on irc channel: tomeu │ so, pending issues I see: 1) tarball containing binaries, 2) sucrose bundles containing binary code, 3) duplicated │ code in sucrose tarballs, 4) adding dependencies to the platform

Re: [Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

2009-08-14 Thread David Farning
Tickets filed for 2-5. Thanks david 2009/8/13 Gabriel Eirea gei...@gmail.com: Hi all, I'm sending below the original text (in Spanish) of a teacher friend's request. I'll try to translate her main concerns. 1) Mesh network doesn't work. Very few kids can get in the same network. She

[Sugar-devel] community support

2009-08-14 Thread David Farning
http://getsatisfaction.com/sugarlabs is getting some questions from users. If you are interest in community support, here is your chance:) david ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Karma: bundle layout improve

2009-08-14 Thread Bryan Berry
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 11:18 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: 2009/8/14 Felipe López Toledo zer.subz...@gmail.com Hello there I know we already talked about the Bundle_layout[ 1 ] but, I suggest to reorganize Lesson structure using this:

Re: [Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

2009-08-14 Thread Andrés Nacelle
Hello you all, In first place thanks for asking, 'm glad to try to help here. Well, lets see. I think in first place we need to make sure witch is the version of the SO and firmware on the XO from the teacher and children, which is really easy for the teacher to tell us. There's a chance that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-14 Thread David Van Assche
Ok, I think what's happening here is a breakdown in communication. When I used the term obvious, I was talking about Christoph's email... I was stating that perhaps the message, as I understood it, was that we need more data from the field... and that _the message_ was not obvious enough in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

2009-08-14 Thread David Van Assche
Hi Andrés, The sharing of activities not working for more than a few connections is a common issue in all the deployments I have seen. It is really important to have an ejabberd server to help with routing xmpp traffic, if you plan on running more than a few XOs in collaborative mode. kind

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 17:12, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I think what's happening here is a breakdown in communication. When I used the term obvious, I was talking about Christoph's email... I was stating that perhaps the message, as I understood it, was that we need more

Re: [Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

2009-08-14 Thread Andrés Nacelle
Hi David, we're aware of this situation. In fact we attempt to share activities between this mush XO in order to compare the performance against the ejabber. We've got good results with the ejabber, but we don't know what will happen in a big school where 200 or 300 XO may appear n the

[Sugar-devel] Triage meeting (little features) --- Monday 17.08.2009 14:00 (UTC)

2009-08-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hey, next Thursday is Feature Freeze: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Roadmap#Schedule - this is the list of the current features: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Feature_List What we want to on Monday is, scanning our tracker for tickets that have bugs which requires bigger code changes,

[Sugar-devel] Design meeting (0.86 features) --- Sunday 16.08.2009 14:00 (UTC)

2009-08-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hey, next Thursday is Feature Freeze: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Roadmap#Schedule - this is the list of the current features: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Feature_List We have some open design questions we want to discuss: * New Toolbar Design

[Sugar-devel] Problem listing journal objects

2009-08-14 Thread Jim Simmons
In View Slides I have some code that lists out what image files it finds in the Journal and puts the results in a table, with the idea that these images may be added to a slide show. Until now I have been just putting image files in the root directory of a thumb drive and have been using the code

Re: [Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

2009-08-14 Thread David Van Assche
Yeah, with that many clients, I'd play with the s2s option to load balance the xmpp traffic. Either that, and/or take out all debugging options, error feedback, and the like, so you only get the needed traffic... This page gives some tuning options: http://www.ejabberd.im/tuning Enabling Gadget

Re: [Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

2009-08-14 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Andrés Nacelle wrote: We've got good results with the ejabber, but we don't know what will happen in a big school where 200 or 300 XO may appear n the Neighbourhood view. Two solutions have been developed for this problem. Both work by making sure that each user does not see all 300 other

Re: [Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

2009-08-14 Thread Andrés Nacelle
Really thanks a lot for all the feedback, let me tell you that this is one of the best feedback I`ve received in a while, congratulations. I`ll be telling you about this when I look at this. Bye Andres Nacelle. 2009/8/14 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu Andrés Nacelle wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] python hulahop article

2009-08-14 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
i'd say that that's a price paid for the incredible power and flexibility of what it brings, but hey, nobody said it would be easy :) i'm dead impressed that you got XPCOM right, and that it works as expected, by providing seamless inter-language communication - and now am a bit

[Sugar-devel] python webkit DOM bindings - help needed

2009-08-14 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
hi folks, as you probably know i completed an initial version of webkit python DOM bindings back in november 2008, and have been maintaining them ever since. i began the process of getting them accepted into the main webkit svn repository and, to say that i kinda messed that up would be an

[Sugar-devel] Screen Displays (text)

2009-08-14 Thread Art Hunkins
As this list knows, I've been struggling with font sizes and screen displays - to get my text-based activity looking right on various size/format displays. By looking right, I mean: a single fixed screen (there is no scrolling; all text is always visible) that fills up fairly fully, but does

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Displays (text)

2009-08-14 Thread Walter Bender
I use gtk.gdk.screen_width() gtk.gdk.screen_height() to determine the absolute screen size in pixels. I have never been able to get a consistent pixels per inch reading, however. I assume a scale factor for non-XO for my text of 1.6 relative to text on an XO display, which seems to give

[Sugar-devel] New sugar meeting channel in Spanish

2009-08-14 Thread Pilar Saenz
Hi, Thinking about how to involve more Spanish speakers into IRC meetings, it's available a transbot between #sugar-meeting and the new #sugar-reunion channels. Spanish users can join #sugar-reunion and all sentences will be translated to english into #sugar-meeting channel and vice versa.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Displays (text)

2009-08-14 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 17:28 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: I determine whether or not I am on an XO with: if os.path.exists('/sys/power/olpc-pm'): # then assume you are on an XO Shouldn't we encapsulate this method (is_xo?()) somewhere? I've seen it spread in a couple of places so far..

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar frozen when trying to register.. bug in idmgr?

2009-08-14 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 10:23 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 19:22, Raul Gutierrez Segalesr...@rieder.net.py wrote: Hi, Has anybody experienced Sugar (0.82) freezing when trying to register against the server? I was unable to register (although connectivity seemed

Re: [Sugar-devel] Karma: bundle layout improve

2009-08-14 Thread Felipe López Toledo
Hmm, your proposal could work. Before I air my concerns, I don't think we should use the word lesson to refer to the tutorial part of a Karma lesson. Calling the union of lesson + exercise+game+lesson plan also a lesson is confusing. I prefer we call the 1st part of a karma lesson a tutorial

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-14 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 15:06 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Or are you saying the feedback is getting through and I'm just not seeing it? We all seem to agree that feedback is important. We mostly agree

Re: [Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

2009-08-14 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 15:31 +0530, Manusheel Gupta wrote: Gabriel, please ask the teacher to download the latest SocialCalc activity package from here . Could we move/copy this to a.sl.o? Makes life easier for deployment teams to then grab activities and make them available at local servers..

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Displays (text)

2009-08-14 Thread Art Hunkins
+1 Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: Raul Gutierrez Segales r...@rieder.net.py To: Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com Cc: Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Screen Displays (text) On

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release FoodForce2-1

2009-08-14 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4206 Sugar Platform: from 0.82 to 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29214 Release notes: FoodForce2 : FoodForce2 has been developed as a complete learning platform which teaches children through games