Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:37, Mitch Bradley wrote: > >> On a side note, which filesystem should be chosen in order to minimize >> wearing to USB sticks? >> > My vote would be squashfs. What about for the writable part of the filesystem, since squashfs is read-only? -- Luke Faraone http://l

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

El Sun, 30-08-2009 a las 20:12 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard escribió: > Yes, the name of the tool is misleading: It works with other fs types > too - its main purpose it partitioning, not fs formatting. I > succesfully booted USB sticks formatted as ext2 (as far as I recall - I > last worked with i

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:10:09AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: On 08/30/2009 10:05 AM, Dan Krejsa wrote: Well, to begin with, neither the makebootfat documentation nor the source code seem to make any mention of aligning disk and filesystem data structures consistent with the erase block siz

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

Hi Jonas, On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:36:05AM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:25, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> >> makebootfat not only formats with disk geometry that *is* right, but also >>> use a handcrafted M

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

El Sun, 30-08-2009 a las 09:20 -0700, H. Peter Anvin escribió: > On 08/30/2009 04:41 AM, Luke Faraone wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:25, Jonas Smedegaard > > wrote: > > > > makebootfat not only formats with disk geometry that *is* right, but > > also use a ha

Re: [Sugar-devel] Friends view UI affordances?

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > El Sun, 30-08-2009 a las 17:31 -0400, Michael Stone escribió: > > Folks, > > > > Before you know how Friends work, the Friends view it is completely > barren > > except for the central XO-person and, as a result, is rather unusable. > What

Re: [Sugar-devel] Does honey still serve a useful purpose?

Hi David, On 30 Aug 2009, at 20:25, David Farning wrote: > I have been looking at the process for creating and release new > activities. > > I have been wondering, 'What is the advantage of distributing > activities through distros as Honey?' It would seem that installing > the activities as .

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2258

== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2258.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-104.tar.gz == Packaged == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2258-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-104.xo == Ne

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v2 Beta Release - "The Next Big Thing"

Bernie Innocenti wrote: > El Sun, 30-08-2009 a las 21:46 +0200, Sebastian Dziallas escribió: >> Please download and test your version of this release from here: >> >> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-2-beta.iso >> >> 6db05c91d2bc1a6c4af1044cea2ae0b6d63931af soas-2-beta.iso > > Hmm

Re: [Sugar-devel] Friends view UI affordances?

El Sun, 30-08-2009 a las 17:31 -0400, Michael Stone escribió: > Folks, > > Before you know how Friends work, the Friends view it is completely barren > except for the central XO-person and, as a result, is rather unusable. What > are > some ways that we could make the function of this screen more

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS v2 Beta Release - "The Next Big Thing"

El Sun, 30-08-2009 a las 21:46 +0200, Sebastian Dziallas escribió: > Please download and test your version of this release from here: > > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-2-beta.iso > > 6db05c91d2bc1a6c4af1044cea2ae0b6d63931af soas-2-beta.iso Hmm I can't find the image anywhere.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] development team meeting

Tuesday Sept 1, at 1pm in Boston right? Yes I can be there till 2pm. Thanks, Caroline On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 08/30/2009 09:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:20, Caroline Meeks >> wrote: >> >>> I am at the GPA this Monday. >>> >> >>

[Sugar-devel] Friends view UI affordances?

Folks, Before you know how Friends work, the Friends view it is completely barren except for the central XO-person and, as a result, is rather unusable. What are some ways that we could make the function of this screen more discoverable? So far, I've thought of a couple of things which might do t

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] development team meeting

On 08/30/2009 09:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:20, Caroline Meeks wrote: >> I am at the GPA this Monday. > > What about Tuesday at 16 UTC? > > Regards, > > Tomeu > Both times work for me. Cheers, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mail

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] development team meeting

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:20, Caroline Meeks wrote: > I am at the GPA this Monday. What about Tuesday at 16 UTC? Regards, Tomeu > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> what about a development team meeting tomorrow? Now that feature >> freeze is past us, we shou

[Sugar-devel] SoaS v2 Beta Release - "The Next Big Thing"

https://launchpad.net/soas Thanks, --Sebastian Dziallas [1] https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ [2] http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh [3] http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/appliances/soas3-20090830.zip ___ Sugar-devel ma

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

Hi! I do not know what was the conclusion about this _completely hypothetical_ case but does fixing the Geode VGA driver match the "paper cut" criteria? Since I am porting (very slowly since 2 months ago I did not know anything at all about the Linux boot process for example) Android to the

[Sugar-devel] Does honey still serve a useful purpose?

I have been looking at the process for creating and release new activities. I have been wondering, 'What is the advantage of distributing activities through distros as Honey?' It would seem that installing the activities as .xo bundles via the activity-bundle facility is more reliable and less wo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] development team meeting

I am at the GPA this Monday. On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > what about a development team meeting tomorrow? Now that feature > freeze is past us, we should discuss how we are going to make sure > that Sugar 0.88 is going to be a rock solid release. > > If you plan

Re: [Sugar-devel] Assessment in Karma

Okay, a little holiday happened with me and then had to read through 100+ olpc emails and then realized that there is a spam filter on my email which blocked sugar emails since july so it took some time to catch up but here I am... :) Martin Langhoff wrote: 2009/8/19 NoiseEHC : - Automat

Re: [Sugar-devel] Read-only access to thumb drive forbidden by Rainbow?

Tomeu, It turned out that fixing the problem with .olpc.store was pretty simple and I now have an Activity that is functional. The next problem is, it works differently in .82 and .84. In .82 every file on the thumb drive and SD card is treated as a Journal entry and listed out by the datastore

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:31:07AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: On 08/30/2009 10:15 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: So if I have now triggered your interest in this technique, Peter, then perhaps we will see interesting funky tricks in syslinux in the future? Well, this is really independent

[Sugar-devel] development team meeting

Hi, what about a development team meeting tomorrow? Now that feature freeze is past us, we should discuss how we are going to make sure that Sugar 0.88 is going to be a rock solid release. If you plan to help with testing, bug triaging or development, please considering passing by. A first propo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

I am in personal contact with Stallman (rms) on this. Who else here knows him? We have met several times at computing events, and discussed other questions in e-mail. I was a factor in his choice of the XO as his main computer, which unfortunately lasted only a short time, because he was unaware th

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 03:21:18PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:36:05AM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:25, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: makebootfat not only formats with disk geometry that *is* right, but also use a handcrafted MBR which has a hi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 09:32:48AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: On 08/30/2009 06:21 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Please read the following: http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/doc-makebootfat.html#7 If you, after reading above, still feel that your questions are relevant (hint: I don't), then p

[Sugar-devel] SoaS Test Day: Join the Support Team

Hi everybody, as noted in our roadmap for Sugar on a Stick [1], we are going to have a joint test day with the folks from Fedora's Quality Assurance [2] to improve the quality of SoaS on its way to version 2 (in November). The test day is scheduled to take place on September 3, which is this T

Re: [Sugar-devel] Read-only access to thumb drive forbidden by Rainbow?

Tomeu, Your suggestion was right on the money. When I run a simple program from Terminal that prints out the files it finds it goes through my SD card (also mounted on /media) and seems to stall in the depths of the .olpc_store directory. What I think I need to do is write my own walk-like funct

Re: [Sugar-devel] Request Feature Freeze Exception for ticket #916 to allow sugar on non-xo hardware to register with a schoolserver

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 13:23, Hamilton Chua wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to kindly request for an exception to the feature freeze > currently in place to allow the inclusion of a patch that will enable sugar > on non-xo hardware to register with a schoolserver. > > The relevant ticket with det

[Sugar-devel] [Karma] reworking karma.sugarlabs.org

I moved everything that was at k.sl.o to the old/ folder we need to use git for refreshing k.sl.o . scp and rsync'ing our changes is just a headache some time this week we should move the chakra/index.html to the root git directory so that will be the first thing people see when they go to k.sl

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:36:05AM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:25, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: makebootfat not only formats with disk geometry that *is* right, but also use a handcrafted MBR which has a higher chance of *looking* right by various BIOSes - both when looki

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 07:25, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > makebootfat not only formats with disk geometry that *is* right, but also > use a handcrafted MBR which has a higher chance of *looking* right by > various BIOSes - both when looking for USB-FDD, USB-ZIP and USB-HDD. Now, by *right*, do we

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unbootable machine

[dropping fedora list which flat out drops unsubscribed mail anyway] On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:18:00AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: Bernie Innocenti wrote: El Sat, 29-08-2009 a las 10:25 -0400, Luke Faraone escribió: Well, the USB format idea was left unimplemented as we (I) couldn't get it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Read-only access to thumb drive forbidden by Rainbow?

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 01:50, Jim Simmons wrote: > Walter, > > I tried deleting /etc/olpc-security but that had no effect,  Even > rebooting after deleting olpc-security had no effect.  I managed to > copy the log messages from my previous efforts to the clipboard and > save them to a thumb drive:

Re: [Sugar-devel] The ARM is near

2009/8/29 Tomeu Vizoso : > Ok, so the idea is to focus our resources on the distribution level? > I'm not very fond of that because: > - polishing a distribution is _lots_ of work. Canonical, Novell, > Redhat, etc. are putting lots of resources into there. I think that a > small set of people can