[Sugar-devel] Objective of today's press release: developer recruitment!

2009-09-17 Thread Sean DALY
For those of you who haven't been following the Marketing list, Sugar Labs and the Free Software Foundation will be issuing a joint press release today celebrating Software Freedom Day. It is visible on our site at http://www.sugarlabs.org/press and on the FSF site at http://www.fsf.org/news/sugar-

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-17 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Mel Chua wrote: > Friendly. > > Is there a one-stop shop I can go to where my problems will be fixed > immediately? ... > Consistent. ... > And the support experience needs to be consistent. As explained above, > teachers need to know that no matter what their problem is, if they > spend 2 minut

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-17 Thread Mel Chua
I read the multiple "future of SoaS" discussions on this mailing list and... to be honest, I was frustrated and didn't quite know how to respond. So I called my aunt Lynne May (I stay with her family when I'm in Boston). She's been a teacher for over 15 years. She teaches first grade. (I've been s

Re: [Sugar-devel] Colors in the rim (Re: sugaronastick.com (was Re: Beta Test of Sugar on a Stick Backup Service.))

2009-09-17 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Luke: I am thinking more of the usage case of community jabber users. (There are differences in how different distributions applications collaborate and function.) One could then know which features are available if you invite someone to an activity. This would be more useful in a non- XS sit

Re: [Sugar-devel] new journal and datastore maintainer

2009-09-17 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 04:51:47PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > So I am strictly looking forward -- and wondering if we can help these > users of 0.82 now. By branching at the 0.82 point as deployed, determining from evidence (those renamed DS directories you have been unable to obtain) what th

[Sugar-devel] Jabber on the server

2009-09-17 Thread Philippe Clérié
Is there any reason to prefer ejabberd on the server rather than another Jabber server? I am thinking of using jabberd2 instead. I can't seem to wrap my head around ejabberd's configuration file but I am quite comfortable with the xml used by jabberd2. -- Philippe -- The trouble with

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] bug or not bug?

2009-09-17 Thread Felipe López Toledo
somehow, I should have overwritten your file :S I'll be more careful from now on this is the correct version: > height || this.canvas.height > I'm seeing your last version with mine to check if there is other "bug" 2009/9/9 Bryan Berry > I see u reverted a change I made in j.k.js > http://git

[Sugar-devel] [Karma] bug or not bug?

2009-09-17 Thread Bryan Berry
I see u reverted a change I made in j.k.js http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/karma/repos/mainline/blobs/master/js% 2Fjquery.karma.js 698- height || this.canvas.height 698+ height || this.canvas.width earlier it read height || this.canvas.width and i changed it to height || this.canvas.height

[Sugar-devel] [Karma] i18n options

2009-09-17 Thread Bryan Berry
I am procrastinating learning object-oriented javascript by thinking about different i18n options for karma Here are just a few of the key requirements for i18n in karma 1. Support inline text in the html This text should be captured 2. Support in code translation document.writ

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89

2009-09-17 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 04:17, Elena of Valhalla wrote: > > I wonder how hard would it be to configure such fedora to look for an > USB key with SoaS on it and mount its home partition at login time: > this would help keeping some of the advantages of SoaS (the ability to > work from any computer

[Sugar-devel] Colors in the rim (Re: sugaronastick.com (was Re: Beta Test of Sugar on a Stick Backup Service.))

2009-09-17 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 18:35, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: > I also wish that the range of rim colors available for the XO choice in F1 > Neighborhood would distinguish what Distribution they are based on... I'm just curious, but how is this relevant to the end user? Most students probably wouldn'

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Etoys 4.0.2318

2009-09-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
== Sources == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/etoys-4.0.2318.tar.gz http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Etoys/Etoys-107.tar.gz == Packaged for OLPC XO == http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/etoys-4.0.2318-1.noarch.rpm http://etoys.laptop.org/rpms/Etoys-1

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89

2009-09-17 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:17, Elena of Valhalla > wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Jim Simmons wrote: >>> [...] Fedora 11 >>> with the included Sugar environment, [...] >>> This does not give the child all the advantages of SoaS,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-17 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Elena of Valhalla wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: >> My wish is to figure out ways that SoaS can take advantage of the hard >> drive while still remaining a portable environment. Hmm...  Hey,  here >> is a potentially useful 'hack'.  

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugaronastick.com (was Re: Beta Test of Sugar on a Stick Backup Service.)

2009-09-17 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
I agree "Sugar on a Stick" should be only the Fedora based sh script installed USB and SD software that sugarlabs produces. I am calling other variants (except for Strawberry or "Blueberry") "Sugar Desktop on a Stick" to distinguish them. these are "full install" (Anaconda and maybe zyx-liveins

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Slip of Sucrose 0.86 by one week

2009-09-17 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Dear Sugar community, > > today at the Developers Meeting it was decided to enact a one week slip > of the 0.86 Sucrose release. > > = 0.86 Final release the 25th September = > This is due to the remaining bugs in the stable branch and so

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugaronastick.com (was Re: Beta Test of Sugar on a Stick Backup Service.)

2009-09-17 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Sorry about top posting, but I agree with most of what you said below, > and I'm not yet particularly worried about the content of the site > itself for now. > > I really think that your initiative has big future and understand that > it's st

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Image Viewer-12

2009-09-17 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4032 Sugar Platform: from 0.86 to 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29252 Release notes: * Implement write_file() properly. Fixes dslo#1264 * Use add_with_viewport() instead of add() (fixes scrollbar issu

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Image Viewer 12

2009-09-17 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello, I just released ImageViewer version 12. Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/ImageViewer/ImageViewer-12.tar.bz2 News = * Implement write_file() properly. Fixes dslo#1264 * Use add_with_viewport() instead of add() (fixes scrollbar issues) * Update French

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Read-74

2009-09-17 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4028 Sugar Platform: from 0.86 to 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29251 Release notes: * Set bundle id in metadata explicitly (addresses dslo#1172) * Workaround possible Evince libview API issues. (dslo

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Read 74

2009-09-17 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello, I just released Read 74. Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Read/Read-74.tar.bz2 News * Set bundle id in metadata explicitly (addresses dslo#1172) * Workaround possible Evince libview API issues. (dslo#1328) * Use gobject.timeout_add_seconds instead o

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Chat-66

2009-09-17 Thread Aleksey Lim
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Chat/Chat-66.tar.bz2 == News == * Utilize new toolbars design * Add new translations: mg, sq, ta ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-datastore-0.85.4

2009-09-17 Thread Aleksey Lim
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.85.4.tar.bz2 == News == * Use basename for uploaded files by default in copy-to-journal script #1372 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sug

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 94

2009-09-17 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 23:30 +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/9/17 David Farning : > > One step in that direction might be to clearly communicate and try to > > gather momentum around a series of stable releases. > > > > One thought that might work is to set .84, .88, .94, and 1.0 as stable > > rel

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.85.7 Tarballs Due

2009-09-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sucrose Maintainers, * Tarballs Please provide source tarballs for the Sucrose 0.85.7 Release [1] by the end of the 17th of September and announce them as explained here: http://sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release#Module_release Thanks, Your Release Team [1] http://sugarlabs.org/

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Slip of Sucrose 0.86 by one week

2009-09-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sugar community, today at the Developers Meeting it was decided to enact a one week slip of the 0.86 Sucrose release. = 0.86 Final release the 25th September = This is due to the remaining bugs in the stable branch and some regressions, for example introduced by the switch to Metacity. We

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 94

2009-09-17 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/9/17 David Farning : > One step in that direction might be to clearly communicate and try to > gather momentum around a series of stable releases. > > One thought that might work is to set .84, .88, .94, and 1.0 as stable > releases for down streams to unite around. That would be useful but a

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugaronastick.com (was Re: Beta Test of Sugar on a Stick Backup Service.)

2009-09-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Sorry about top posting, but I agree with most of what you said below, and I'm not yet particularly worried about the content of the site itself for now. I really think that your initiative has big future and understand that it's still in an early stage. I also think that something like that could

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sound on XO-1 with SoaS

2009-09-17 Thread Art Hunkins
Sound works fine for me on the XO-1 via SoaS. What's bothersome to me is the very small (size 7) default font. (In my activity, I get around this by setting size = 10, if the system isn't a native XO). Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: "Jim Simmons" To: ; "Jonas Smedegaard" Sen

Re: [Sugar-devel] new journal and datastore maintainer

2009-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > FWIW, your three major points were fixed way back by Tomeu's 0.84 data-store > re-write to make for robustness. Actually I'm fairly sure it was these > kind'a reports that prompted Tomeu to make that fine effort. Prior to this > (0.82) I had

Re: [Sugar-devel] new journal and datastore maintainer

2009-09-17 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Martin, FWIW, your three major points were fixed way back by Tomeu's 0.84 data- store re-write to make for robustness. Actually I'm fairly sure it was these kind'a reports that prompted Tomeu to make that fine effort. Prior to this (0.82) I had seen occasional datastore 'loss', sometime

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] let's stick w/ Javascript 1.6

2009-09-17 Thread Bryan Berry
I haven't been able to get my hands on Safari but I have tested Arora, a QtWebkit browser that lucian informs me uses stock JavascriptCore. I was able to run .map(), .forEach() w/ out a problem so I think we can use js 1.6 and don't have to the dark ages of 1.5 ;) On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 09:56 +05

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 94

2009-09-17 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/9/17 Jim Simmons : >> So the real answer to your question is, how will the other kids >> upgrade and when will they be able to do it? > > In the majority of cases (i.e. large deployments) it will be done as a > coordinated effort by the o

Re: [Sugar-devel] 0.86 Release --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (17th Sep, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-09-17 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:32:51PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Hi, > > we will meet at 14:00 UTC to discuss the status of the 0.86 release. As > we have serious regressions and have not seen much non-gary testing yet, > we consider delaying the release or release with noting the issues in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 94

2009-09-17 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/9/17 Jim Simmons : > So the real answer to your question is, how will the other kids > upgrade and when will they be able to do it? In the majority of cases (i.e. large deployments) it will be done as a coordinated effort by the overseeing deployment team. The deployment team will make the de

[Sugar-devel] 0.86 Release --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (17th Sep, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-09-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, we will meet at 14:00 UTC to discuss the status of the 0.86 release. As we have serious regressions and have not seen much non-gary testing yet, we consider delaying the release or release with noting the issues in the release notes and trying to fix them in the bug fix releases. A delay w

Re: [Sugar-devel] new journal and datastore maintainer

2009-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
Welcome new maintainer! I am currently doing a bit of work with LatAm deployments, so I do have some notes related to DS. You may be aware of these issues, of course. - "Dataloss" on startup. We are hearing of some issues in the field with "dataloss" -- not real dataloss but if there is anything

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-17 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: > My wish is to figure out ways that SoaS can take advantage of the hard > drive while still remaining a portable environment. Hmm...  Hey,  here > is a potentially useful 'hack'.  Have SoaS detect the presence of a > hard drive at boot time, lo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89

2009-09-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:17, Elena of Valhalla wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Jim Simmons wrote: >> [...] Fedora 11 >> with the included Sugar environment, [...] >> This does not give the child all the advantages of SoaS, but it's >> probably far from useless. > > I wonder how hard w

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 94

2009-09-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 00:02, Jim Simmons wrote: > Jonas, > > As an Activity developer I want to have my stuff run well for as many > children as possible.  As an XO owner I want my XO set up as much as > possible like the XOs out in the field, so I can be sure that children > with XOs have the b

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89

2009-09-17 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Jim Simmons wrote: > [...] Fedora 11 > with the included Sugar environment, [...] > This does not give the child all the advantages of SoaS, but it's > probably far from useless. I wonder how hard would it be to configure such fedora to look for an USB key with So

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] SLOBs Position on SoaS

2009-09-17 Thread Douglas McClendon
Bill Bogstad wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Douglas McClendon > wrote: >> Bill Bogstad wrote: >>> ... >>> >>> I also don't think we can leave Sugar LiveUSB to any distribution. >>> My impression is that both LiveCD and LiveUSB Linux distributions are >>> essentially gimmicks for all of

Re: [Sugar-devel] new journal and datastore maintainer

2009-09-17 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 03:55:07PM -0500, David Farning wrote: Great job and congrats on handing off the modules and a heartfelt thanks to alsroot and Benjamin Berg for pick them up. +1 CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signat