[Sugar-devel] comments in the code (was Re: [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar)

2010-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 00:31, Tim McNamara wrote: > > There are other forces at play. I recall one thread on the development list > that said there should not be in-code documentation in order to maintain the > quality of the contributions of prospective developers. The reasoning was > that if in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Time out on registration process to prevent indefinite UI hang (SL#2289)

2010-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 20:28, Dipankar Patro wrote: > Registration with the school server is currently done synchronously. > To prevent the UI from hanging indefinitely, if the school server is reachable > but unresponsive, we add an explicit timeout. > > Reviewed-By: Sascha Silbe > --- >  src/j

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] [PATCH] Shutdown and Logout menu items should activate the buzzy cursor (SL#2151)

2010-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 19:51, Anurag Chowdhury wrote: > Shutdown (and Logout) menu items should activate the buzzy cursor (or provide > some other visual feedback, perhaps dimming/locking the UI from use). > --- >  src/jarabe/view/buddymenu.py |    3 +++ >  1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 de

[Sugar-devel] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ ready for translating 0.90 ?

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, is the translating interface ready for the making the 0.90 translations? German translation show 100% complete for Glucose [1], but the last commit is from March. Do I miss something? Other experiences? Thanks, Simon [1] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/de/ _

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/15/2010 04:27 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Excerpts from Simon Schampijer's message of Wed Sep 15 12:33:30 +0200 2010: > >>> Personally I'm moving to the point where if there's not a tarball I >>> won't spend my time packaging it. >> >> Yes, I think the effort for uploading a bundle that can be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Announce file transfer capabilities #1603

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/16/2010 06:58 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > --- > src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py | 23 ++- > 1 files changed, 22 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py > b/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py > index eabdbc0..27f3b53 100644 > --- a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Properly store and load friends #2331

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/17/2010 09:54 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Because FriendBuddyModel has a different life cycle than BuddyModel > (are tracked also when online), we need to store the key and nick > so we can represent them in the UI when the contact are not online > and also so we can relate to the contact when

Re: [Sugar-devel] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ ready for translating 0.90 ?

2010-09-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 20.09.2010, at 12:37, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Hi, > > is the translating interface ready for the making the 0.90 translations? > > German translation show 100% complete for Glucose [1], but the last > commit is from March. > > Do I miss something? Other experiences? The commit status ind

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Home button in Browse

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/17/2010 10:42 PM, Gary Martin wrote: > Hi Simon, > [...] > > Any catch your eye? Need another variant? > > Regards, > --Gary Thanks Gary - these are great. I like go-home-4.png best as it does not have the chimney that could be seen as a western world icon. There is some similarity to the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/18/2010 04:01 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Søren Hougesen > wrote: >> For about a month ago, I asked as a curious outsider, if kids were actually >> hacking sugar. > > Two factors are important here: > > - We all have very high and complex expectations for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 04:01, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Søren Hougesen > wrote: >> For about a month ago, I asked as a curious outsider, if kids were actually >> hacking sugar. > > Two factors are important here: > >  - We all have very high and complex expectatio

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-20 Thread Søren Hougesen
*Tony* - *"Having a FOSS culture means that lots of smaller design decisions are made which empower the learner"* I'm interested to know more about this FOSS culture. As I've understand it, Sugar (-Lab) is part of a this greater FOSS culture. At the same time I find it difficult to capture the c

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Make sure we don't change the owner's colors because of a network event #2348

2010-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
--- src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py b/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py index b808e12..76a0a7d 100644 --- a/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py +++ b/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py @@ -829,7 +

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Pass the contact-id to the buddy-removed signal instead of the handle #2349

2010-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
--- src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py |3 ++- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py b/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py index 76a0a7d..9d82db3 100644 --- a/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py +++ b/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py @@ -387,8

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-20 Thread forster
> *Tony* - *"Having a FOSS culture means that lots of smaller design > decisions are made which empower the learner"* Soren I find it a bit strange being asked to explain FOSS culture. I run Windows on my computer and see myself as a little bit of an outsider. It is, I guess, difficult to def

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Localization] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ ready for translating 0.90 ?

2010-09-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 20.09.2010, at 15:13, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Bert Freudenberg > wrote: > On 20.09.2010, at 12:37, Simon Schampijer wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > is the translating interface ready for the making the 0.90 translations? > > > > German translation show 100% complete

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: SL bug#630

2010-09-20 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 07:46:13PM +0530, Mukul Gupta wrote: > Copying sugar-devel on this memo > > Regards, > > Mukul Gupta > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Mukul Gupta > Date: Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:38 PM > Subject: SL bug#630 > To: alsr...@member.fsf.org > Cc: Manusheel Gu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: SL bug#630

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/20/2010 04:16 PM, Mukul Gupta wrote: > Copying sugar-devel on this memo > > Regards, > > Mukul Gupta Hi Mukul, what is the intention of this mail? Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listi

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH v4 sugar] Time out on registration process to prevent indefinite UI hang (SL#2289)

2010-09-20 Thread Dipankar Patro
Registration with the school server is currently done synchronously. To prevent the UI from hanging indefinitely, if the school server is reachable but unresponsive, we add an explicit timeout. --- src/jarabe/desktop/schoolserver.py | 27 --- 1 files changed, 24 insertion

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH v4 sugar] Time out on registration process to prevent indefinite UI hang (SL#2289)

2010-09-20 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Dipankar Patro's message of Mon Sep 20 16:45:59 +0200 2010: > v3->v4: Rebased on current mainline/master Reviewed-By: Sascha Silbe Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Sugar-devel] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ ready for translating 0.90 ?

2010-09-20 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Hi, > > is the translating interface ready for the making the 0.90 translations? > > German translation show 100% complete for Glucose [1], but the last > commit is from March. > > Do I miss something? Other experiences? As mentioned on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar and activities flag day

2010-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 01:27, Gary Martin wrote: > On 14 Sep 2010, at 12:11, Simon Schampijer wrote: > >> On 09/13/2010 05:58 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: >>> On 10 September 2010 13:41, Daniel Drake  wrote: Just wanted to summarize an enlightening conversation that just happened in #sugar:

[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Added busy cursor when we open any section in control panel. (Ticket #245)

2010-09-20 Thread Ishan Bansal
The sections in control panel should activate busy cursor so that user could be given a impression that their request is in progress. --- src/jarabe/controlpanel/gui.py |3 +++ 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/jarabe/controlpanel/gui.py b/src/jarabe/controlpa

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar and activities flag day

2010-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:26, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 18:09, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: >>> On 10 September 2010 13:41, Daniel Drake wrote: Just wanted to summarize an enlightening conversation that just h

Re: [Sugar-devel] http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ ready for translating 0.90 ?

2010-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 17:26, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Simon Schampijer > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> is the translating interface ready for the making the 0.90 translations? >> >> German translation show 100% complete for Glucose [1], but the last >> commit is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: SL bug#630

2010-09-20 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 09/20/2010 04:16 PM, Mukul Gupta wrote: >> Copying sugar-devel on this memo >> >> Regards, >> >> Mukul Gupta > > Hi Mukul, > > what is the intention of this mail? Mukul is describing an approach, and pros and cons, to solving a problem

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar and activities flag day

2010-09-20 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:26, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 18:09, Marco Pesenti Gritti >> wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 10 September 2010 13:41, Daniel Drake wrote: > Just

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: SL bug#630

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/20/2010 05:50 PM, David Farning wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> On 09/20/2010 04:16 PM, Mukul Gupta wrote: >>> Copying sugar-devel on this memo >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mukul Gupta >> >> Hi Mukul, >> >> what is the intention of this mail? > > Mukul is des

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: SL bug#630

2010-09-20 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 09/20/2010 05:50 PM, David Farning wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Simon Schampijer >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 09/20/2010 04:16 PM, Mukul Gupta wrote: Copying sugar-devel on this memo Regards, Muk

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: SL bug#630

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/20/2010 06:08 PM, David Farning wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Simon Schampijer > wrote: >> On 09/20/2010 05:50 PM, David Farning wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Simon Schampijer >>> wrote: On 09/20/2010 04:16 PM, Mukul Gupta wrote: > > Copyin

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Home button in Browse

2010-09-20 Thread Gary Martin
On 20 Sep 2010, at 12:02, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 09/17/2010 10:42 PM, Gary Martin wrote: >> Hi Simon, >> [...] >> >> Any catch your eye? Need another variant? >> >> Regards, >> --Gary > > Thanks Gary - these are great. > > I like go-home-4.png best as it does not have the chimney that c

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: SL bug#630

2010-09-20 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 09/20/2010 06:08 PM, David Farning wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Simon Schampijer >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 09/20/2010 05:50 PM, David Farning wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Simon Schampijer  wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Home button in Browse

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/20/2010 06:21 PM, Gary Martin wrote: > On 20 Sep 2010, at 12:02, Simon Schampijer wrote: > >> On 09/17/2010 10:42 PM, Gary Martin wrote: >>> Hi Simon, >>> [...] >>> >>> Any catch your eye? Need another variant? >>> >>> Regards, >>> --Gary >> >> Thanks Gary - these are great. >> >> I like go-

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH v2 sugar] Frame: show application-set icon for non-Sugar windows

2010-09-20 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from James Cameron's message of Mon Sep 20 02:48:08 +0200 2010: > > +def _icon_changed_cb(self, window): > > +gobject.idle_add(self._update_icon, window) > > I'm puzzled. Why defer the update to an idle task? If it is because of > a race, I'm worried this won't fix it. I d

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar and activities flag day

2010-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:26, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 18:09, Marco Pesenti Gritti >> wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 10 September 2010 13:41, Daniel Drake wrote: > Just

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar and activities flag day

2010-09-20 Thread Gary Martin
On 20 Sep 2010, at 16:34, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 01:27, Gary Martin wrote: >> On 14 Sep 2010, at 12:11, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> >>> On 09/13/2010 05:58 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 10 September 2010 13:41, Daniel Drake wrote: > Just wanted to summarize an enli

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar and activities flag day

2010-09-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > The hackers at #python in GIMPNet have proposed holding a hackfest for > porting Sugar to introspection and thus getting PyGObject ready. > > Who else would be interested from the Sugar side? We'll also need > sponsors for travel and venue. Ri

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar and activities flag day

2010-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> The hackers at #python in GIMPNet have proposed holding a hackfest for >> porting Sugar to introspection and thus getting PyGObject ready. >> >> Who else would be interested from

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Added busy cursor when we open any section in control panel. (Ticket #245)

2010-09-20 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Ishan Bansal's message of Mon Sep 20 17:36:03 +0200 2010: > The sections in control panel should activate busy cursor so that user could > be given a impression that their request is in progress. Like for the other patch, please wrap lines so they fit into 80 columns (70-75 for the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Pass the contact-id to the buddy-removed signal instead of the handle #2349

2010-09-20 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Mon Sep 20 14:56:04 +0200 2010: > --- Would have been nice to note that this is a regression and callers expect the contact_id instead of the handle. At first I was worried that this might break other code, but the patch actually makes the listeners work ag

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Make sure we don't change the owner's colors because of a network event #2348

2010-09-20 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Tomeu Vizoso's message of Mon Sep 20 14:55:28 +0200 2010: > --- > src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py |2 +- > 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py > b/src/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py > index b808e12..76a0a7d 100644 >

[Sugar-devel] Bug No. #1442

2010-09-20 Thread Shanjit Singh Jajmann
Sir/Ma'am, I am actually facing problem with this particular bug( http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1442 ), it would be helpful if a few pointers be provided. Also if someone could elaborate on how to check between sugar / activity Compatibility it would be helpful. Regards Shan __

[Sugar-devel] Managing own patches on patchwork (was: Re: [PATCH] Announce file transfer capabilities #1603)

2010-09-20 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Simon Schampijer's message of Mon Sep 20 12:49:52 +0200 2010: > Just in case anyone else reads this - reviewed on irc and Tomeu pushed > it already. BTW, it would be nice if patch submitters would update the state of their own patches on patchwork [1], especially if they get supers

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-20 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Simon Schampijer's message of Mon Sep 20 12:45:28 +0200 2010: > > Do you expect only developers of activities in Fructose to follow that > > process (documented on the Development Team/Release [1] page on the > > wiki) or others as well? > > Ideally all of them, as (a) there are not

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Sugar Journal - Erase confirmation

2010-09-20 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
In Sugar's Journal, the per-entry "Erase" menu choice does not ask for any confirmation prior to deleting an object. This presents the risk of accidentally deleting something, especially since the "View Details" menu choice is immediately above it I searched bugs.sugarlabs.org looking to see

Re: [Sugar-devel] Managing own patches on patchwork (was: Re: [PATCH] Announce file transfer capabilities #1603)

2010-09-20 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:57:49PM +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: > BTW, it would be nice if patch submitters would update the state of their > own patches on patchwork [1], especially if they get superseded by newer > patch versions or accepted into mainline. > This is entirely optional, but helps red

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH v4 sugar] Time out on registration process to prevent indefinite UI hang (SL#2289)

2010-09-20 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 08:15:59PM +0530, Dipankar Patro wrote: > Registration with the school server is currently done synchronously. > To prevent the UI from hanging indefinitely, if the school server is reachable > but unresponsive, we add an explicit timeout. > --- > src/jarabe/desktop/schools

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug No. #1442

2010-09-20 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Shan, On 20 Sep 2010, at 21:54, Shanjit Singh Jajmann wrote: > Sir/Ma'am, > > I am actually facing problem with this particular bug( > http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1442 ), it would be helpful if a few > pointers be provided. Also if someone could elaborate on how to check between > su

[Sugar-devel] Some questions concerning saving methods on sugar

2010-09-20 Thread Alberto Arruda de Oliveira
Hello, I've been adapting an application to use as an activity, and I have some questions about the way to save on sugar. At first, I tried to just create a directory inside my Activity folder especially made for saving files, but it did not work, because of the access permissions to it, and, alt

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Policy for activities for downstream inclusion

2010-09-20 Thread Gary Martin
On 20 Sep 2010, at 22:10, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Excerpts from Simon Schampijer's message of Mon Sep 20 12:45:28 +0200 2010: > >>> Do you expect only developers of activities in Fructose to follow that >>> process (documented on the Development Team/Release [1] page on the >>> wiki) or others as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Some questions concerning saving methods on sugar

2010-09-20 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Alberto, On 21 Sep 2010, at 02:39, Alberto Arruda de Oliveira wrote: > Hello, > > I've been adapting an application to use as an activity, and I have some > questions about the way to save on sugar. > > At first, I tried to just create a directory inside my Activity folder > especially

Re: [Sugar-devel] Some questions concerning saving methods on sugar

2010-09-20 Thread Claudia Urrea
Alberto, The newest version of Scratch (16) allows you to save and retrieve projects using the regular folder UI. You can download it from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Scratch You can also import pictures and sound from the journal, and download projects from the Scratch website. Please let me know