[Sugar-devel] moving datastore projects via usb sticks?

2010-12-30 Thread Erik Blankinship
In my video game, I am saving game state resources into a tar file, which is then saved to the journal / datastore. Later in the game, a child can use an object chooser to select one of these game states. "Under the hood" we check if the datastore object file_path ends with tar or gtar before we

Re: [Sugar-devel] moving datastore projects via usb sticks?

2010-12-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Erik Blankinship wrote: > In my video game, I am saving game state resources into a tar file, which is > then saved to the journal / datastore. Hi Erik! on the 10.1.3 release track we've made some improvements in this area (which was rather broken). What version

Re: [Sugar-devel] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5

2010-12-30 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Peter, On 28 Dec 2010, at 21:17, Peter Robinson wrote: > Hi All, > > I just thought I would give people a heads up for changes that I'm > aware of that are going to be appearing in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5. > > The big one will be gnome3/gtk3 plus the associated changes that will > come with the

Re: [Sugar-devel] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5

2010-12-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Gary Martin wrote: > This is the monstrous gaping maw of doom, from my perspective. Just about > every Activity and much of the Sugar UI will break. AIUI, from discussions with Simon and Tomeu that's not the case. Gnome people are not that insane, the old APIs wi

Re: [Sugar-devel] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5

2010-12-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 09:27 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > AIUI, from discussions with Simon and Tomeu that's not the case. Gnome > people are not that insane, the old APIs will still work and be > supported. > > They won't be the latest coolest API wiz-bang so support may be > weaker, and/or we

[Sugar-devel] Stepping up as maintainers for Glucose

2010-12-30 Thread Sascha Silbe
Hi! Simon and I are willing / would like to step up as maintainers for all Glucose modules. That would mean each of us can Ack a patch. Patches we authored ourselves will need to be Ack'ed by the other maintainer so all changes go through review (as the purpose is continuous improvement of our abi

Re: [Sugar-devel] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5

2010-12-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 09:27 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> AIUI, from discussions with Simon and Tomeu that's not the case. Gnome >> people are not that insane, the old APIs will still work and be >> supported. >> >> They won't be the la

Re: [Sugar-devel] Stepping up as maintainers for Glucose

2010-12-30 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Sascha Silbe < sascha-ml-reply-to-201...@silbe.org> wrote: > Hi! > > Simon and I are willing / would like to step up as maintainers for all > Glucose modules. That would mean each of us can Ack a patch. Patches we > authored ourselves will need to be Ack'ed by the

Re: [Sugar-devel] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5

2010-12-30 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Bernie Innocenti > wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 09:27 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> AIUI, from discussions with Simon and Tomeu that's not the case. Gnome > >> people are not that insane, the old AP

Re: [Sugar-devel] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5

2010-12-30 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Peter Robinson's message of Thu Dec 30 21:10:32 +0100 2010: > So are we saying that we don't want sugar on a stick for the F-15 > release cycle and are happy to have it dropped from the Fedora Spins > and someone else is prepared do the work to get it back to that > status? Or do peo

Re: [Sugar-devel] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5

2010-12-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > I don't think that is what people are saying. I think they are saying that > we need not resolve all of our potential GNOME 3.0 issues immediately as the > 2.0 libraries will still be present. Is that not the case? Yep. AIUI, Sugar is not f

Re: [Sugar-devel] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5

2010-12-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 20:10 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 09:27 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> AIUI, from discussions with Simon and Tomeu that's not the case. Gnome > >> people are not that insane, the old API

Re: [Sugar-devel] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5

2010-12-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Peter Robinson > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Bernie Innocenti >> wrote: >> > On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 09:27 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> >> AIUI, from discussions with Simon and Tomeu

Re: [Sugar-devel] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5

2010-12-30 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 20:10 +, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> > On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 09:27 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> >> AIUI, from discussions with Simon and Tomeu that's n

Re: [Sugar-devel] A heads up for the major changes that will appear in Fedora 15 / SoaS 5

2010-12-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 20:51 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Is Fedora already dropping all the gnome2 libraries?? > > I can't believe this. > > Nope. But they're all compiled against gtk3 and things will be changed > in pygtk / gobject-introspection as mentioned which will likely affect > sugar.

[Sugar-devel] pygame activities stop XO sleep?

2010-12-30 Thread Peter Hewitt
Hope this is the right place for this my first post. It seems that my pygame activities prevent the XO (both models) from going to sleep. This problem persists even after my activity has stopped. Someone suggested that this happens with other pygame activities. Does anyone have a solution for

Re: [Sugar-devel] pygame activities stop XO sleep?

2010-12-30 Thread Paul Fox
peter wrote: > Hope this is the right place for this my first post. > > It seems that my pygame activities prevent the XO (both models) from going > to sleep. This problem persists even after my activity has stopped. > > Someone suggested that this happens with other pygame activities. >

[Sugar-devel] TurtleBlocks driving lego NXT 2.0 -

2010-12-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Walter, list, [ disclaimer: this is a hobby project, likely to proceed at very slow pace, given insane amounts of real work around XOs ;-) ] I got a lego nxt 2.0 for xmas! Looking around for how to use it from Linux, I found NXC (a variant on NQC -- 'not quite C' that compiles to NXT bytecode)

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Calculate-35

2010-12-30 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4076 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.90 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27152/calculate-35.xo Release notes: - Includes latest available translation strings Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] TurtleBlocks driving lego NXT 2.0 -

2010-12-30 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Hi Walter, list, > > [ disclaimer: this is a hobby project, likely to proceed at very slow > pace, given insane amounts of real work around XOs ;-) ] > > I got a lego nxt 2.0 for xmas! Looking around for how to use it from > Linux, I found

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Calculate-35

2010-12-30 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Reinier, Just a heads up that I've just made a quick v35 release on ASLO to pull in the latest pootle translations as OLPC are about to lock down their next build image, Gonzalo specifically pinged to get the latest Spanish strings into several activities. OT: One thing I noticed with the n

Re: [Sugar-devel] pygame activities stop XO sleep?

2010-12-30 Thread Peter Hewitt
@Paul - thanks for the feedback - I no longer have a 1.5 to verify what you found but I've just double checked on my 1.0 (.82) - I started Boxes, stopped it and now the XO is awake for ever :( (Two asides for you - 1. Discover the sacrificial strategy mentioned in my notes and turn your "bad

Re: [Sugar-devel] pygame activities stop XO sleep?

2010-12-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 17:21 -0500, Paul Fox wrote: > while running, Boxes consumes over 80% of the CPU (on my 1.5), even > though the display is, as far as i can tell, completely static. if > this happens with other pygame-based activities, then something is > broken in pygame. I'm afraid this b

Re: [Sugar-devel] Stepping up as maintainers for Glucose

2010-12-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 20:56 +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Simon and I are willing / would like to step up as maintainers for all > Glucose modules. That would mean each of us can Ack a patch. Patches we > authored ourselves will need to be Ack'ed by the other maintainer > so all changes go through r

Re: [Sugar-devel] moving datastore projects via usb sticks?

2010-12-30 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 08:31 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Erik Blankinship wrote: > > In my video game, I am saving game state resources into a tar file, which is > > then saved to the journal / datastore. > > Hi Erik! > > on the 10.1.3 release track we've made

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Labyrinth-11

2010-12-30 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4078 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.90 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27153/labyrinth-11.xo Release notes: - Updated to latest available translation strings Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org _

Re: [Sugar-devel] TurtleBlocks driving lego NXT 2.0 -

2010-12-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > I had a similar conversation with the Arduino team in .uy last month. We Interesting! > I would recommend as a place to start simply adding a set of blocks to > control the motors and access the sensor data. And leave the programming > logi

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Labyrinth-11

2010-12-30 Thread Gary Martin
== Bundle == http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4078/ == Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Labyrinth/Labyrinth-11.tar.bz2 == News == - Updated to latest available translation strings Jorge: Since the change of Gitiorus version/server I no longer have commit

Re: [Sugar-devel] moving datastore projects via usb sticks?

2010-12-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > What particular bug was fixed? Is that something that we may want to > steal in Dextrose? http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9658 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9657 it's a deal, it's a steal! m --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  mar...@laptop.o

Re: [Sugar-devel] TurtleBlocks driving lego NXT 2.0 -

2010-12-30 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Walter Bender > wrote: > > I had a similar conversation with the Arduino team in .uy last month. We > > Interesting! > > > I would recommend as a place to start simply adding a set of blocks to > > control

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Physics-8

2010-12-30 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4193 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.90 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27154/physics-8.xo Release notes: - Update to latest translation strings Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Physics-8

2010-12-30 Thread Gary Martin
== Bundle == http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4193/ == Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Physics/Physics-8.tar.bz2 == News == - Update to latest translation strings ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.s

Re: [Sugar-devel] pygame activities stop XO sleep?

2010-12-30 Thread James Cameron
The patch was not attached to my previous message, sorry. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ --- Boxes.py.orig 2010-12-31 11:09:40.0 +1100 +++ Boxes.py 2010-12-31 11:10:19.0 +1100 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ # Boxes.py -import g,utils,pygame,buttons,gtk,sys,random +import g,utils,py

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Radio-4

2010-12-30 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4375 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.90 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27155/radio-4.xo Release notes: v4: do not make a journal entry, don't hardcode bundle path, play button now resumes journal loaded file, stop o

Re: [Sugar-devel] git problems (reprise)

2010-12-30 Thread Art Hunkins
Walter et al.- I did take the opportunity to add some comments/clarifications to the Git FAQ. If I've misled anywhere, I hope to be corrected. As it stands now, I feel it is a good beginner tutorial - one that just about anyone could follow fairly easily. Thanks for both your help and encourag

Re: [Sugar-devel] git problems (reprise)

2010-12-30 Thread James Cameron
Art, you added a comment that logging in to gitorious was required for *every* step in the tutorial. That's not how it worked for me. Is it possible that you are referring to a passphrase of the SSH key? If so, you can delete the passphrase of the SSH key and you won't be prompted. You can dele

Re: [Sugar-devel] moving datastore projects via usb sticks?

2010-12-30 Thread Erik Blankinship
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Erik Blankinship > wrote: > > In my video game, I am saving game state resources into a tar file, which > is > > then saved to the journal / datastore. > > Hi Erik! > > on the 10.1.3 release track we've mad

Re: [Sugar-devel] moving datastore projects via usb sticks?

2010-12-30 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:06:15PM -0500, Erik Blankinship wrote: > I check to see if the file_path ends in gtar or tar (presumably > assigned by the datastore mime-type?) and some debugging tells me it > does not. Instead I get a path > /home/olpc/.sugar/default/data/rawobject3dkJYR I don't thi

Re: [Sugar-devel] moving datastore projects via usb sticks?

2010-12-30 Thread Erik Blankinship
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:26 PM, James Cameron wrote: > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:06:15PM -0500, Erik Blankinship wrote: > > I check to see if the file_path ends in gtar or tar (presumably > > assigned by the datastore mime-type?) and some debugging tells me it > > does not. Instead I get a p

Re: [Sugar-devel] TurtleBlocks driving lego NXT 2.0 -

2010-12-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: >  - NBC/NXC is the most popular tool by all accounts, actively RPM at http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/nbc/ >  - There is a python module for it, but it's for Python 2.4, looks > unmaintained, seems very limited in features and it's not clear