Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GPL non compliance? was Re: GPL non-compliance, was Re: [IAEP] GPLv3

2011-04-26 Thread Gabriel Eirea
There are apparently a few facts from Plan Ceibal's deployment that are not well known in the community. This surprises me, given that some of you have been here in Uruguay and I was under the assumption that you were well aware of these facts. I will refrain to give my opinion and describe a few f

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GPL non compliance? was Re: GPL non-compliance, was Re: [IAEP] GPLv3

2011-04-26 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Gabriel Eirea wrote: > There are apparently a few facts from Plan Ceibal's deployment that > are not well known in the community. This surprises me, given that > some of you have been here in Uruguay and I was under the assumption > that you were well aware of thes

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-26 Thread Walter Bender
To me, one of the more compelling arguments for considering GPLv3 is "When the Rules Are Broken: A Smooth Path to Compliance". We have been engaged of late in a parallel discussion regarding a possible violation of the Sugar GPLv2. If this were actually to be the case, the violator will have to go

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > To me, one of the more compelling arguments for considering GPLv3 is > "When the Rules Are Broken: A Smooth Path to Compliance". Interesting! I hadn't thought it'd be so awkward, but if one is to be 100% formal, you need to do something lik

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GPL non compliance? was Re: GPL non-compliance, was Re: [IAEP] GPLv3

2011-04-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Gabriel Eirea wrote: > Fact 1: in Plan Ceibal the XO 1.0 and XO 1.5-HS don't provide access > to root. Yes, but as Walter indicates, I understand it is allowed in newer OSs. In any case I am aware of efforts to make it available. > This means that Sugar can't be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Thank you for applying to Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-04-26 Thread Manusheel Gupta
Dipankar, Glad you guys tried. +1 on your initiative. We have a good team, and should definitely continue on these projects. Regards, Manu On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Dipankar Patro wrote: > Sorry guys, we couldn't make it from my side in GSOC. :( > > But I think we should continue on t

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release CeibalRadio-2

2011-04-26 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4365 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.92 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27329/ceibalradio-2.xo Release notes: Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ S

[Sugar-devel] Testing Fedora-15-Nightly-20110425.17-i686-Live-soas.iso

2011-04-26 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Test of booted live CD http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#Fedora-15-Nightly-20110425.17-i686-Live-soas.iso Thomas Gilliard satellit on #sugar freenode IRC ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http:/

[Sugar-devel] git.sugarlabs.org Web UI downtime

2011-04-26 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, Today (Apr 26), Web UI for git.sugarlabs.org will be inaccessible starting from 20:00 UTC for 2 hours. Only UI, so "git pull/push" commands will work as usual. -- Aleksey ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-04-24

2011-04-26 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:22 PM, roberto wrote: > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Walter Bender > wrote: >> ==Sugar Digest== >> >> >> 5. Cynthia Solomon has put her excellent book, co-authored by Margaret >> Minsky and Brian Harvey, on Logo programming, ''LogoWorks: Challenging >> Programs in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GPL non compliance?

2011-04-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 10:26 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: > > useless because children can install absolutely no additional software > > packages (they can't do "yum install"). > > Um - again you _can_ install sw in your homedir. Not as practical but > possible. It would be quite painful for us

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] GPL non compliance?

2011-04-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Sugar folks, [cutting off a few recipients I knwo is subscribed to lists] On 11-04-26 at 12:57pm, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 10:26 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: > > > > useless because children can install absolutely no additional > > > software packages (they can't do "

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > http://fsfe.org/projects/gplv3/europe-gplv3-conference.en.html > http://fsfe.org/projects/gplv3/barcelona-rms-transcript.en.html > > see question 6b from this Q&A from the 3rd International GPLv3 > Conference (Barcelona, June 22-23, 2006): > > **

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > By updating to the GPLv3, we make a clear political statement that > commercial usage is ok, but our software must always remain free for > users to use, study, share *and* modify. 1) I'm not interested in using Sugar code to make politi

[Sugar-devel] AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'

2011-04-26 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, I'm seeing an odd bug running Fedora 13 Sugar on ARM. When I launch any Sugar activity: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in main.main() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", line 101, in main locale_path = i18

Re: [Sugar-devel] AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'

2011-04-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/26/2011 06:38 PM, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, I'm seeing an odd bug running Fedora 13 Sugar on ARM. When I launch any Sugar activity: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in main.main() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main

Re: [Sugar-devel] AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'

2011-04-26 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I already helped him with this. The issue was the ~/.i18n file missing due to olpc-utils not being in the build, and Sugar/various applications' inability to compensate ( http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10682 - although some progress has been made on this). Chris compensated for this by adding an En

Re: [Sugar-devel] AttributeError: [ re-titling locales and i18n / L10n]

2011-04-26 Thread Chris Leonard
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > I already helped him with this. > > The issue was the ~/.i18n file missing due to olpc-utils not being in the > build, and Sugar/various applications' inability to compensate ( > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10682 - although some progress