Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

Hi… Last year at SCaLE George Hunt helped me get Sugar running on my RPi. Because our booth was so busy, it took parts of both Saturday and Sunday to get it going. I then tried it when I got home and found that it was prone to stalls. Of course, this was back in late February and there may have

Re: [Sugar-devel] different perspectives

On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:50:52PM -0800, Sameer Verma wrote: > 1) What brought you into the OLPC and/or Sugar project(s)? Jim Gettys. An inspirational technical leader, who asked the open source and Linux community for volunteers, in about May 2006. At the time, I was comfortably employed and n

[Sugar-devel] different perspectives

Dear Community, As I was listening to the interviews of some of the OLPC SF Summit attendees, I was amazed at the richness of diversity in perspectives. In spite of being a part of this community since July 2007, and trying to keep up with all that is OLPC and Sugar, these interviews threw me off

Re: [Sugar-devel] Have we achieved consensus among activite Sugar developers?

> The big idea is that open sources projects thrive when they create > conditions and cultures where people with overlapping yet > non-identical goals can come together collaborate around a common > goal. > > Sugar Labs has found itself in a position where there is a high degree > of conformity. Th

Re: [Sugar-devel] Have we achieved consensus among activite Sugar developers?

I think you realized but failed to emphasize an important point: There is not a single community rallying around Sugar at this time. Instead, I see at least two if not more. Each has its own expectations and social norms, yet claims to speak for (and sometimes control) the Sugar world as a whole.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

Hmm, I think we used Abi.init_noargs() in some way. Sorry, was long time ago, I can't remember ... Thanks Daniel Gonzalo On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > On 5 November 2013 00:13, Daniel Narvaez wrote: >> >> On 5 November 2013 00:07, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> >>> On Mon,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 04:40:51PM -0800, Thomas Gilliard wrote: > > On 11/4/2013 4:17 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > > On 4 November 2013 23:05, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Sugar on Android or the Raspberry Pi might have an interesting > marketing effect but the result would be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > On 4 November 2013 22:53, Sean DALY wrote: >> >> * It's not clear to me where we are going. The OLPC/Sugar development >> ecosystem seems to be at a crossroads. I am encouraged by the web activity >> work, but don't understand the path of tr

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hey

Hey Daniel! 2013/11/4 Daniel Narvaez > > Hi Manuel, > > I was wondering if you are still working for OLPC these days and if OLPC is > still funding the web activities work at all... From the conversations on the > mailing lists I have the feeling everyone is a bit lost about the direction > Su

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

On 4 November 2013 22:53, Sean DALY wrote: > * It's not clear to me where we are going. The OLPC/Sugar development > ecosystem seems to be at a crossroads. I am encouraged by the web activity > work, but don't understand the path of transposing the value proposition of > Sugar (interface, Journal

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

On 11/4/2013 4:17 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 4 November 2013 23:05, Peter Robinson > wrote: Sugar on Android or the Raspberry Pi might have an interesting marketing effect but the result would be truly terrible as it would be essentially unusable and h

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

On 4 November 2013 23:05, Peter Robinson wrote: > Sugar on Android or the Raspberry Pi might have an interesting > marketing effect but the result would be truly terrible as it would be > essentially unusable and have a terrible experience. Can you elaborate on why you think it would be a terri

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release LOL-1

Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4717 Sugar Platform: 0.100 - 0.100 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28814/last_one_loses_activity-1.xo Release notes: Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

On 4 November 2013 22:53, Sean DALY wrote: > * It's not clear to me where we are going. > I'm afraid you are not the only one feeling that way. It's much easier said than done, but we need to figure out where we are going and to communicate it clearly inside the community. __

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

:) On 5 November 2013 00:23, Chris Leonard wrote: > I poked my abiword friends, expect the commit shortly. > > cjl > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez > wrote: > > On 5 November 2013 00:07, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez > >> wr

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

I poked my abiword friends, expect the commit shortly. cjl On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > On 5 November 2013 00:07, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez >> wrote: >> > Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

On 5 November 2013 00:13, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > On 5 November 2013 00:07, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez >> wrote: >> > Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct one then >> I'll >> > open a bug + patch. >> >> Thanks! Let me kno

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

On 5 November 2013 00:07, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez > wrote: > > Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct one then > I'll > > open a bug + patch. > > Thanks! Let me know when you've got a patch and I'll test it. > > Here it is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct one then I'll > open a bug + patch. Thanks! Let me know when you've got a patch and I'll test it. Peter > On 4 November 2013 22:40, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 4,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

Broken annotation in abiword. Trying to figure out the correct one then I'll open a bug + patch. On 4 November 2013 22:40, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Daniel Narvaez > wrote: > > That's a segmentation fault I think. It would be good if you could > launch it > > with

Re: [Sugar-devel] Have we achieved consensus among activite Sugar developers?

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:59 PM, James Cameron wrote: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:28:35AM -0500, David Farning wrote: >> Have we achieved general consensus that the three phase approach I >> proposed earlier this week has the potential for establishing a >> mutually beneficial relationship while

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > Gonzalo - I'm sorry, I was unable to attend the SLOBs meeting today. > > There are issues with doing PR about the release > > * It's not clear to me where we are going. The OLPC/Sugar development > ecosystem seems to be at a crossroads. I am encou

Re: [Sugar-devel] Branching Glucose in Pootle

Yes, I think I did it, but do not remember anything special. What is the problem? Gonzalo On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Gonzalo, if I remember correctly. > > > On 4 November 2013 22:41, Chris Leonard wrote: >> >> I need some help with sorting out the branching of gluc

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] Sugar oversight board meeting

Gonzalo - I'm sorry, I was unable to attend the SLOBs meeting today. There are issues with doing PR about the release * It's not clear to me where we are going. The OLPC/Sugar development ecosystem seems to be at a crossroads. I am encouraged by the web activity work, but don't understand the pat

Re: [Sugar-devel] Branching Glucose in Pootle

Gonzalo, if I remember correctly. On 4 November 2013 22:41, Chris Leonard wrote: > I need some help with sorting out the branching of glucose in Poolte. > > Now that it is in git hub it is different than our documented > processes. Someone sorted out the commits to git hub, and it was not > me

[Sugar-devel] Branching Glucose in Pootle

I need some help with sorting out the branching of glucose in Poolte. Now that it is in git hub it is different than our documented processes. Someone sorted out the commits to git hub, and it was not me. Who did that? cjl ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > That's a segmentation fault I think. It would be good if you could launch it > with sugar-launch -d and post the backtrace., possibly after having > installed debug packages. 2Gb of debuginfo later I have the following: http://paste.fedorap

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-web - How to load non-AMD js modules / libs?

2013/11/4 Code > I think this is off-topic... > BTW: perhaps you wanna see this thread from RequireJS' > list > where James > Burke (core developer of RequireJS lib) talks about these syntax

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

That's a segmentation fault I think. It would be good if you could launch it with sugar-launch -d and post the backtrace., possibly after having installed debug packages. On 4 November 2013 21:25, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez > wrote: > > I don't have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > I don't have much of a clue about Write but... can you send the activity > log? It unfortunately only contains a single line: Terminated by signal 11, pid 14089 data (None, ', mode 'w' at 0x2e13540>, dbus.ByteArray('ef47d2e4dc6551ba96f6cede

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

I don't have much of a clue about Write but... can you send the activity log? On 4 November 2013 16:14, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Daniel Narvaez > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > we are proud to announce the release of Sugar 0.100.0. A lot is new for > both > > users a

Re: [Sugar-devel] error building sugar-build

2013/11/4 Gonzalo Odiard > > Sorry by the noise, looks like server side fail. > Just finished. Their servers are being accessed more and more these days. I don't know what can we do about it. Maybe setting up a local registry with the required deps. https://npmjs.org/doc/registry.html -- .. ma

Re: [Sugar-devel] error building sugar-build

Sorry by the noise, looks like server side fail. Just finished. G On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > And no, I am not behind a proxy :) > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: >> When I check if the site is available with chrome, >> show a error about lik

Re: [Sugar-devel] error building sugar-build

When I check if the site is available with chrome, show a error about like something is wrong with the certificate. I can download using: wget --no-check-certificate http://registry.npmjs.org/istanbul/-/istanbul-0.1.22 Do you know if is possible change any configuration in our side to do the sa

Re: [Sugar-devel] error building sugar-build

And no, I am not behind a proxy :) On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > When I check if the site is available with chrome, > show a error about like something is wrong with the certificate. > > I can download using: > > wget --no-check-certificate > http://registry.npmjs.org/i

Re: [Sugar-devel] error building sugar-build

2013/11/4 Gonzalo Odiard : > Anybody knows what can be the source and solution of this error? > > Building in F18, default options, tried several times > > * Building karma > > Command failed: npm install -g --prefix > /home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install > > npm http 200 https://registry.npmj

[Sugar-devel] error building sugar-build

Anybody knows what can be the source and solution of this error? Building in F18, default options, tried several times * Building karma Command failed: npm install -g --prefix /home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install npm http 200 https://registry.npmjs.org/mime npm http GET https://registry.np

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-web - How to load non-AMD js modules / libs?

2013/11/4 Code : > I think this is off-topic... > BTW: perhaps you wanna see this thread from RequireJS' list where James > Burke (core developer of RequireJS lib) talks about these syntax forms. > If there is something realted to this to add, would u open a new thread, > please? > > > Getting back

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-web - How to load non-AMD js modules / libs?

I think this is off-topic... BTW: perhaps you wanna see this thread from RequireJS' list where James Burke (core developer of RequireJS lib) talks about these syntax forms. If there is something

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Hello, > > we are proud to announce the release of Sugar 0.100.0. A lot is new for both > users and developers, see the release notes > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Notes > > Sources: > > http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose

Re: [Sugar-devel] Help 17 and Help Doers Kit

+1 We need improve the final pieces to get the localization done. Kalpa and I did part of the work in the activity itself, the missing part is the pootle stuff. Gonzalo On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: > We still need a lot of L10n activity to get it fully ready for wide >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Help 17 and Help Doers Kit

We still need a lot of L10n activity to get it fully ready for wide use in Sugar Deployments in non-English countries. http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/help_content/ On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > Help 17 is at a point close to release, but in some essential w

Re: [Sugar-devel] Help 17 and Help Doers Kit

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > Help 17 is at a point close to release, but in some essential ways, is, as > yet, unfinished. > > It is largely updated in content, but there is still some very important > changes that have not been crossed off the list on this > page:ht

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2013-11-01

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: >> My goal is not to replace Sugar (or Sugar activities) with Turtle >> Blocks, but to use Turtle Blocks to make Sugar and Sugar activities >> more transparent. I posit that once you have written a simple paint >> program in Turtle Blocks, sudd

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2013-11-01

> My goal is not to replace Sugar (or Sugar activities) with Turtle > Blocks, but to use Turtle Blocks to make Sugar and Sugar activities > more transparent. I posit that once you have written a simple paint > program in Turtle Blocks, suddenly the underlying mechanics of the > Paint activity are m

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2013-11-01

On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: > El 03/11/13 11:56, Walter Bender escribió: > >>> >Does this mean one will be able to create Sugar Activities from Turtle >>> > Bocks >>> >itself? >> >> Not exactly. But you can sketch the behavior of a Sugar Activity, >> e.g., paint, fototo