Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 05:39:35AM +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: > Indeed this will be an issue if we give the release web a new face > and people start trying things out (a few perhaps) in initial > testing. Actually, no, it won't be an issue, because those people will ignore the collabo

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread tkkang
>Thanks Samuel. > >So there is effort needed to port Sugar to the versions of Telepathy >in use in Fedora and whatever other distributions are used. > >I'm in favour of that. > + 1 & hope a SOaS (sos) call will get it back to its core functionality and uniqueness. Thank you all for the feedb

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread tkkang
>This keeps coming up. >I believe that due to changes in telepathy, collaboration (at least for >Jabber) has not worked for the past few Fedora releases. Not sure which version but in the past I did have some fun linking up XO-1 and SOAS for varied shared activities. Reliability was good enough a

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread tkkang
>So if you do not blank it out, but leave it as it is, and allow it to >connect to jabber.sugarlabs.org, everything works fine? > Did my last testing with conection to jabber.sugarlabs.org. Not able to get the shared activity to show/display to join and test. So things are really broken :-(

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread James Cameron
Thanks Samuel. So there is effort needed to port Sugar to the versions of Telepathy in use in Fedora and whatever other distributions are used. I'm in favour of that. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 01:03:38AM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > This keeps coming up. > > I believe that due to changes in t

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
This keeps coming up. I believe that due to changes in telepathy, collaboration (at least for Jabber) has not worked for the past few Fedora releases. Given collaboration is supposed to be one of the core features of Sugar, this makes it hard to promote. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:36 AM, James

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 04:11:45AM +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: > >Okay, and please bear with me; I don't have the data quota to download > >SOAS images; but is the Server entry box in the Collaboration section > >of the Network panel of the My Settings set or is it blank? > > It has the

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread tkkang
>Okay, and please bear with me; I don't have the data quota to download >SOAS images; but is the Server entry box in the Collaboration section >of the Network panel of the My Settings set or is it blank? It has the jabber.sugalabs.org and I have blank it out first for my testing. I registered the

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 03:26:41AM +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: > >Is this registered to the schoolserver? Or only connected to the AP? > > Only connected to the Schoolserver via the AP without registration. Okay, and please bear with me; I don't have the data quota to download SOAS im

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 08:10:38PM -0700, Thomas Gilliard wrote: > On 5/20/2015 6:52 PM, James Cameron wrote: > >Are you finding this problem with peer to peer (telepathy salut) or > >with a jabber server (telepathy gabble)? > > > >Do the two SOAS share a network? > > > >Did previous SOAS work okay

[Sugar-devel] alert("Hello Sugar !");(Utkarsh Dhawan)

2015-05-20 Thread utkarsh Dhawan
Hi, My name is Utkarsh Dhawan,I am a Second Year Engineering student at Mumbai University.I am new to the open source community but have started developing a keen interest in it.I want to contribute to this community with a soul purpose of learning something out of it.This summer I would be workin

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread tkkang
>Is this registered to the schoolserver? Or only connected to the AP? Only connected to the Schoolserver via the AP without registration. >Did you see the person in neighbourhood view while using the AP? Yes they showed up together with any other activities shared by the XO. Could join by the

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Thomas Gilliard
On 5/20/2015 8:10 PM, Thomas Gilliard wrote: On 5/20/2015 6:52 PM, James Cameron wrote: Are you finding this problem with peer to peer (telepathy salut) or with a jabber server (telepathy gabble)? Do the two SOAS share a network? Did previous SOAS work okay? Is there a ticket number? I like

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 03:10:17AM +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: > I tested the 2 SOAS-22 via a connection to the schoolserver AP. Is this registered to the schoolserver? Or only connected to the AP? > In Adhoc network connection I could not see the other person in > neighbourhood view.

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Thomas Gilliard
On 5/20/2015 6:52 PM, James Cameron wrote: Are you finding this problem with peer to peer (telepathy salut) or with a jabber server (telepathy gabble)? Do the two SOAS share a network? Did previous SOAS work okay? Is there a ticket number? I like the way you fixed the OLPC sugar Ubuntu! coll

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread tkkang
I tested the 2 SOAS-22 via a connection to the schoolserver AP. Collaboration works normally between XOs-1 running 13.2.4. In Adhoc network connection I could not see the other person in neighbourhood view. I think collaboration work on SOAS-17 and below as I alway try to see if the SOAS wou

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread James Cameron
Are you finding this problem with peer to peer (telepathy salut) or with a jabber server (telepathy gabble)? Do the two SOAS share a network? Did previous SOAS work okay? Is there a ticket number? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar

[Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread tkkang
With SOAS Fedora 22 coming to the stage of final release I would like to know if we can expect the collaboative features of Sugar to be functioning. I tried Memorize, Maze and Write with two SOAS and it did not work. Have reported this issue before. Cheers --- T.K. Kang ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities

2015-05-20 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:43:23AM -0300, Gustavo Duarte wrote: > Notificator: There is a Sugar Activity who shows Notification messages > for the kid. > > Daemon: There is an script running on cron, who get new notification > from a Server. > > I need communicate the Daemon with the Notificator,

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Image Viewer-62

2015-05-20 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4032 Sugar Platform: 0.98 - 0.104 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/29112/image_viewer-62.xo Release notes: Use object chooser with preview if available Restart a instance without a file should show the emptypane

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

2015-05-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > Thanks Peter, I was watching that too. > > If I understand correctly switching/changing the sections or adding an > Activity is beyond tweaks? while text changes are tweaks. We need to stop somewhere and say "Yes, this is good enough" and I real

Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Gustavo Duarte
Thanks Gonzalo. Because, the kind of messages to showing are html. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > The notificator can write the notification to a file, > and the activity can use Gio.FileMonitor to know when the file was updated. > > Just for curiosity, why not use th

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

2015-05-20 Thread Sean DALY
Thanks Peter, I was watching that too. If I understand correctly switching/changing the sections or adding an Activity is beyond tweaks? while text changes are tweaks. I'm quite happy with it, even though there are lots of changes we suggested which aren't in. I feel the only tweak still to make

Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
The notificator can write the notification to a file, and the activity can use Gio.FileMonitor to know when the file was updated. Just for curiosity, why not use the Sugar notifications? Gonzalo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Gustavo Duarte wrote: > Hi Gonzalo, > > Sure, I'll try explain th

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcing] UNSTABLE 0.105.1 (feature frozen)

2015-05-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Good work! I forwarded to iaep mailing list. Gonzalo On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:51 PM, German Ruiz - FundacionZT < gr...@fundacionzt.org> wrote: > 2015-05-19 14:35 GMT-06:00 Martin Abente : > > Many thanks German! > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:25 PM, German Ruiz - FundacionZT > > wrote: > >>

Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Gustavo Duarte
Hi Gonzalo, Sure, I'll try explain the user case. Notificator: There is a Sugar Activity who shows Notification messages for the kid. Daemon: There is an script running on cron, who get new notification from a Server. I need communicate the Daemon with the Notificator, so when Daemon receive a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

2015-05-20 Thread Peter Robinson
>>> >>> _Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_. >>> >> Thanks, Gonzalo, is good advice. >> > > I've just spent two hours manually providing updates. It will be live > on staging shortly. > > Please provide any further updates against that. Right the new updated content is live on st

Re: [Sugar-devel] The new kid on the block

2015-05-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Welcome VIbhor, Use this mailing list to ask any technical question I don't know if you already have a working Sugar environment, but you can found more information in developer.sugarlabs.org Gonzalo On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Sam P. wrote: > Hello, > > > It is great to see more people

Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Hi Gustavo, I think would help if you explain the specific use case. The activity who will receive the message is a specific activity, and you will send it from a script or service? Can the activity just monitor a file or something like that? Gonzalo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Gustavo Duar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Gustavo Duarte
Walter, There are two different activities, and the communication could be asynchronous. I not sure, if the the comment bellow, can confuse you, if yes, please forget that. The process who send the message, could be just a script, isn't needed it be an Activity. Thanks. On Wed, May 20,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 79, Issue 51

2015-05-20 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sam As part of GSOC, I am mentoring the Interactive Javascript Project and have four candidates for the unfunded Web Confusion project who have volunteered to continue in support of the community. Since the two projects are closely related and since there are five people involved plus me,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Walter Bender
Gustavo, Are they two instances of the same activity or two different activities? Is the communication synchronous or asynchronous? -walter On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Gustavo Duarte wrote: > James, > > I should be more specific, sorry, in my case, the two Activities are > on the same com

Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Gustavo Duarte
James, I should be more specific, sorry, in my case, the two Activities are on the same computer. Sam, Are a thread about this, already ? Thanks. Gustavo On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Sam P. wrote: > Hi James, > > Is this meant to be a reply to an existing thread? > > Thanks, > Sam > > On

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

2015-05-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 11:39 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: >> Iain, Sean, Sam, >> >> >> _Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_. >> > Thanks, Gonzalo, is good advice. > I've just spent two hours manually providing updates.

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Final Release Compose 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2015-05-20 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All, We're in the last stretch so we're now down to critical fixes. Please test and let me know ASAP. Peter https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_RC1/Images/armhfp/Fedora-SoaS-armhfp-22-1-sda.raw.xz https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_RC1/Live/x86_64/Fedora-Live-SoaS-x86_6

Re: [Sugar-devel] Communication between two Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Sam P.
Hi James, Is this meant to be a reply to an existing thread? Thanks, Sam On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:01 PM James Cameron wrote: > Are the two activities on: > > - separate computers, or > > - the same computer? > > If the two activities are on separate computers, do they have the same > bundle

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

2015-05-20 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 11:39 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > Iain, Sean, Sam, > > > _Please_consolidate_the_changes_before_send_to_Peter_. > Thanks, Gonzalo, is good advice. My apologies to the other contributors, Sam, Walter and Sean for clouding their perfectly useful work. The text that I hav

Re: [Sugar-devel] f22-spins page is being written and needs suggestions

2015-05-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > ah that's great Peter we just need these small changes then: > > * add this phrase to the start of the "Sugar automatically saves" paragraph: > Sugar sets aside the traditional “office-desktop” metaphor, presenting a > child-friendly simple graph

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

2015-05-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > Peter - here is Iain's document: > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/attachments/20150519/bdaf00ca/attachment.html Can we have pure plain text, the web team deals with formatting. I need to be able to provide it in pure text, I don

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] New Fedora Spins Site

2015-05-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > On Tue, 2015-05-19 at 19:57 +0200, Sean DALY wrote: >> Gonzalo - Iain had already consolidated all changes > > ... almost consolidated! > > Chat does not really fit in Multimedia, IMHO. It's not in Multimedia, it's in "Going online". Ma