Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi David, Sorry, this seem to have fallen through the cracks. > Iain referred me to a Fedora community where LinuxliveUSB installer was > recommended and it works just fine. It also installs a Linux emulator for > Windows Virtualbox and I found I could run SOAS beautifully in that way. That >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread Sam P.
Yeah, collaboration is broken in newer (20+? IDK) fedora versions. That is because of telepathy api changes. We will attempt to fix this in the coming release (0.108/1.0?). That seems to the the consensus about the coming release. Thanks, Sam On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 7:04 pm Peter Robinson

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] meeting reminder

2015-09-08 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Sorry, I missed your email and forgotten the meeting. About the time for the Wednesday meeting, could be earlier? (like 22 UTC) Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread James Cameron
G'day David, I've no guidelines. There are some industry best practices, but they boil down to; - conditions of sale, e.g. the seller warrants compatibility with Linux, or fails to, - compatibility testing, e.g. running an uncustomised Linux such as Fedora, and verifying it works with

Re: [Sugar-devel] Bug 1240354 - SoaS live x86_64 20150706 does not login from live system user

2015-09-08 Thread Peter Robinson
>> So to briefly restate. >> >> Problem: Sugar does not start on F23. >> >> Diagnosis: the shared library libsugarext.so.0 cannot be loaded, >> because of a missing symbol, yet the symbol can be found with >> strings(1). >> >> Workaround #1: use F22 packages. >> >> Workaround #2: use Martin's

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread David Leeming
Hi James, Yes that is understood. Are there any guidelines we can follow in reviewing hardware for compatibility? David -Original Message- From: qu...@laptop.org [mailto:qu...@laptop.org] Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2015 10:00 a.m. To: David Leeming Cc:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread David Leeming
Hi Peter, Thanks for the confirmation of that. I did notice some issues, using the default online server with two or three SOAS active, I could sometimes see one of the identities in Neighbourhood but never both or all of them. Thus, collaboration was not possible to demonstrate. However,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread James Cameron
G'day David, The stability problems you describe are not SOAS or Linux, but rather hardware. We find Sugar, SOAS, or Linux very stable when used on known good hardware or in emulation on known good hardware. Emulation won't fix your stability issues though; you have to fix the hardware. Use a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread David Leeming
Hi James, What are the hardware requirements for SOAS to work? David -Original Message- From: qu...@laptop.org [mailto:qu...@laptop.org] Sent: Wednesday, 9 September 2015 10:37 a.m. To: David Leeming Cc: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread James Cameron
The same hardware requirements for the corresponding version of Fedora, since SOAS is based on Fedora. SOAS itself has no hardware requirements beyond what Fedora has. SOAS and Sugar are hardware agnostic. However, some Sugar activities require a camera, some require microphone and speaker, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread James Cameron
Inline quoted reply. On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 12:46:37PM +1100, David Leeming wrote: > Well my old Toshiba laptop for instance, a Qosmio i7, a few years > old but was a $2000 laptop when new. On this I can't boot and run > SOAS. It never completes booting, you go through the name, colour, >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread David Leeming
Hi, Well my old Toshiba laptop for instance, a Qosmio i7, a few years old but was a $2000 laptop when new. On this I can't boot and run SOAS. It never completes booting, you go through the name, colour, gender, school grade but then it just shows the blank screen with only the mouse cursor

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread David Leeming
Hi James, Well whatever it is, it highlights some practical experience of trying to use SOAS, with blunders and all. It needs to be used by people with technical and troubleshooting skills. David -Original Message- From: qu...@laptop.org [mailto:qu...@laptop.org] Sent: Wednesday, 9

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

2015-09-08 Thread James Cameron
No, only that version. If you go to a previous version it won't suffer from the same fault. On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 01:30:35PM +1100, David Leeming wrote: > Hi James, > > Well whatever it is, it highlights some practical experience of trying to > use SOAS, with blunders and all. It needs to be

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] meeting reminder

2015-09-08 Thread Walter Bender
After further discussion, we've agreed to reschedule the meeting to next Monday, 14 September, at 23:00 UTC (19:00 ET). Sorry for any inconvenience. regards. -walter On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > We did not have a quorum, so we will try again