Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 April 2016 at 22:00, Tony Anderson wrote: > OLE Nepal later converted the squeak activities to html5/javascript > because to speed up execution and reduce the memory size of the activities. THAT is interesting! :) Thanks!

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Dave Scratch is based on squeak. Back in the day, OLE Nepal wrote some 80 activities as part of EPaath using squeak. I suspect if you Google you will find descriptions for both Etoys and Scratch on writing projects in Squeak. OLE Nepal later converted the squeak activities to

Re: [Sugar-devel] WebKit2 Browse - Download and Test

2016-04-18 Thread James Cameron
Debian bug #802380 has a link that reproduces a "WebKit has crashed" dialog on Browse-158, for which I've attached a screenshot. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/18/us-new-york-flightcenter-idUSKCN0SC14B20151018 This was with 2.12.0, and it is probably a WebKit problem rather than a Browse

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Allow running Sugar Activities outside Sugar

2016-04-18 Thread Tony Anderson
Sebastian +1 Tony On 04/18/2016 09:37 PM, Chris Leonard wrote: Sebastian, This seems like a very elegant solution that provides greater flexibility in invoking Sugar, very nice indeed. cjl On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:57 AM, Sebastian Silva

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Gonzalo Could you help explain this? :) On 18 April 2016 at 19:33, James Cameron wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 06:37:49PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > On 18 April 2016 at 17:48, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > > [2]help.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 06:37:49PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 18 April 2016 at 17:48, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > >         [2]help.sugarlabs.org > > How is this generated? Don't know. If I needed to know, I'd ask Gonzalo. My guess is that the help-activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 18 April 2016 at 18:21, Sam P. wrote: > Content is genuinely the most important. No matter how nice your design > is, no new visitor will be able to get what sugarlabs is by looking at your > site - it simply doesn't say it! I agree 100%, however, as I understood it, I

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 18 April 2016 at 15:04, Juan Carlos Murillo wrote: > > In addition to Sugar Labs main webpage, Wiki, Planet, and the Translation > webpages, which other websites do you think will need to be redesigned? > I would prioritize/order them as: homepage,

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 April 2016 at 17:48, James Cameron wrote: > help.sugarlabs.org > How is this generated? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Sam P.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, I tested your website in portrait on my phone. Many of the text columns looked a little small. Please try to test with that too. When I went to your site, it seemed to be lacking in content. Please don't add dummy text now and do

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Sanchit Bansal
Hey Can you guys take a looks at this and give me some feedback on the design : sanchitbansal.xyz/GSoC/ Thanks a lot On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 3:18 AM, James Cameron wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 02:04:19PM -0500, Juan Carlos Murillo wrote: > > Hi developers, > > > > I

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 02:04:19PM -0500, Juan Carlos Murillo wrote: > Hi developers, > > I hope you are doing well. Fine thanks! > I applied for the GSoC 2016 to work on the redesign of the Sugar Lab’s > websites. I would like to have your opinions on the following > questions. A question not

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Allow running Sugar Activities outside Sugar

2016-04-18 Thread James Cameron
Yes, I like it. It will allow a gradual transition to conventional desktop for a learner, instead of a binary choice. It avoids having to port each activity to dual use. It may support activity development without having to use an emulator or switch desktop. I'm looking forward to seeing it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 April 2016 at 16:01, Justin Overton wrote: > Is this the correct place for the current javascript development? > https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-web > That's the python wrapper that allows web-platform activities to run within a full Sugar Desktop. There's also

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Justin Overton
Thanks for the quick replies. Is this the correct place for the current javascript development? https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-web It looks like it hasn't been touched in quite some time. > -- > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 12:03:30 +0800 > From: Tony

[Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Juan Carlos Murillo
Hi developers, I hope you are doing well. I applied for the GSoC 2016 to work on the redesign of the Sugar Lab's websites. I would like to have your opinions on the following questions. In addition to Sugar Labs main webpage, Wiki, Planet, and the Translation webpages, which other websites do

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.04.2016, at 17:28, Dave Crossland wrote: > > Hi > I spent a lot of time yesterday reading about the history of smalltalk, and > it seems undervalued. > > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/search?q=squeak=all >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 April 2016 at 11:47, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Etoys is arguably a World of activities. > In theory there's no difference between theory and practice. Let me put this another way: I am new to SmallTalk and it makes grand claims, yet I can not see much real world impact.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-04-18 17:28:06) > On 18 April 2016 at 00:03, Tony Anderson wrote: > >> Very much so. Currently the focus is writing activities using >> javascript (sugar-web-activities). These activities work in Sugar >> exactly as do the Python-base

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 18 April 2016 at 00:03, Tony Anderson wrote: > Very much so. Currently the focus is writing activities using javascript > (sugar-web-activities). These activities work in Sugar exactly as do the > Python-base activities. They also work on Sugarizer requiring only a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-Server enhancement

2016-04-18 Thread Jerry Vonau
replies inline > On April 18, 2016 at 5:24 AM James Cameron wrote: > > > Tony, when you hold down those four game keys you are installing > software from OLPC. Assuming you haven't set up your own firmware > keys and signed your own images. > It's not that hard, installing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-Server enhancement

2016-04-18 Thread James Cameron
Tony, when you hold down those four game keys you are installing software from OLPC. Assuming you haven't set up your own firmware keys and signed your own images. When you refer to "Build 85" or "13.2.5", that is OLPC OS. It was built by OLPC by combining Fedora, Sugar, and Gnome. While we

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-Server enhancement

2016-04-18 Thread Manash Raja
Hi James, The feature will ensure that ds-backup will work. Here is how: ds backup runs rsync over ssh using this command * /usr/bin/ssh -o "PasswordAuthentication no" -o "StrictHostKeyChecking no" -i ~/.sugar/default/owner.key -l * I found this from the source code of ds-backup you provided

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-Server enhancement

2016-04-18 Thread Tony Anderson
ssh is the tool for administration of deployed servers. However, 'rm -f ~/.ssh/known_hosts' is a simple workaround. Tony On 04/18/2016 05:38 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 02:54:54AM +0530, Manash Raja wrote: Hi, [...] I have tested that we can add to .ssh/config Host

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-Server enhancement

2016-04-18 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 02:54:54AM +0530, Manash Raja wrote: > Hi, > [...] > I have tested that we can add to .ssh/config > Host custom_server_name >     HostName 10.105.57.97 >     PasswordAuthentication no >     StrictHostKeyChecking no >     IdentityFile ~/.sugar/default/owner.key >     User >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-Server enhancement

2016-04-18 Thread Manash Raja
@ Tony, the GUI changes have been reverted to the original "Register / Register again" buttons. :) On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > Jerry, > > I apologize for the word absurd. That was emotional. I should have used > the 24 hour rule. > > The

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Justin I was also astonished to learn that Sugar is still going last month, but the community is pretty active still, I agree with what Tony said :) On 18 April 2016 at 00:03, Tony Anderson wrote: > Very much so. Currently the focus is writing activities using

Re: [Sugar-devel] BookmarksTab: Show most visited web sites [BROWSE]

2016-04-18 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 11:01:19AM +0530, Utkarsh Tiwari wrote: > Hi, > I would like to add this enhancement to Browse activity -> > https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4394 It doesn't look like there is any interest in this enhancement, given that it was suggested three years ago and nothing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Allow running Sugar Activities outside Sugar

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
I LOVE IT :D ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] Allow running Sugar Activities outside Sugar

2016-04-18 Thread Sebastian Silva
Hi friends, I've been wishing to be able to nicely run Activities from a regular desktop for a while. So I patched sugar-toolkit-gtk3 to allow for this (patch at https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/pull/315 ) The patch allows to run Activities by using the sugar-activity script.