Re: [Sugar-devel] How to enable activities

2009-12-14 Thread Philippe Clérié
Sound volume is low even at 100%. In general thought I'm happy with it. We'll see how it takes the pounding from children. :-) -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. On Monday 14 December 2009 10:29:35 Philippe Clérié wrote: > OK! I found suga

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to enable activities

2009-12-14 Thread Philippe Clérié
OK! I found sugar-install-bundle! Still! That was unusual! -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. On Monday 14 December 2009 10:11:05 Philippe Clérié wrote: > Not on the list view. > > Not in liveuser/Activities. > > All the activit

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to enable activities

2009-12-14 Thread Philippe Clérié
December 2009 09:57:15 Walter Bender wrote: > Did you check to see if they are in the List View (a opposed to the > Circle View)? if so, use the star to have them show up. > It is strange that they are missing. Has anyone else seen this problem? > > -walter > > 2009/

[Sugar-devel] How to enable activities

2009-12-14 Thread Philippe Clérié
Yesterday I downloaded Blueberry and attempted to run it to find that several activities were missing: Turtle Art, the TamTam apps and Terminal among others. They are neither on the home screen nor on the list view. I went digging this morning and they are on the stick in /usr/share/sugar/bundl

Re: [Sugar-devel] Blueberry iso md5sum discrepancy

2009-12-13 Thread Philippe Clérié
gt; > -walter > > 2009/12/13 Philippe Clérié : > > I just downloaded the blueberry iso and the md5sum I get is: > > > > e0576a9e09d3eb13de46099c8d1ee74d > > > > not > > > > 4740da1026ab049b7781bbbdf21a8115 > > > > as reported on http://wi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Blueberry iso md5sum discrepancy

2009-12-13 Thread Philippe Clérié
on the download page. > > thanks. > > -walter > > 2009/12/13 Philippe Clérié : > > I just downloaded the blueberry iso and the md5sum I get is: > > > > e0576a9e09d3eb13de46099c8d1ee74d > > > > not > > > > 4740da1026ab049b77

[Sugar-devel] Blueberry iso md5sum discrepancy

2009-12-13 Thread Philippe Clérié
I just downloaded the blueberry iso and the md5sum I get is: e0576a9e09d3eb13de46099c8d1ee74d not 4740da1026ab049b7781bbbdf21a8115 as reported on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Blueberry. The downloaded file seems complete at 617,611,264 bytes which is equal to the 589MB repo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-21 Thread Philippe Clérié
> For long-term security and support, we could adopt the Linux model: push > this concern down to the distributors and let them do a profitable > business out of it. > > This creates a sustainable market for Sugar. Linux distributors who > have successfully built a reputation for offering good cu

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Philippe Clérié
-- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. On Sunday 20 September 2009 07:34:51 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > 2009/9/20 Philippe Clérié : > >> But the idea is for SLs to market only "Sugar on a Stick", whatever it > >> is based on.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Philippe Clérié
> I don't quite understand this decision panel stuff. > Is a different decision panel elected every time there is an undecided > issue at hand? Or do we elect one group that remains in place for all > unanswered questions, present and future? > I sympathize since I'm also a bit confused. This is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Philippe Clérié
2009 07:24:42 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > 2009/9/20 Philippe Clérié : > >> So, a possible solution could be calling the product marketed by SLs > >> "Sugar on a Stick" and each individual team and product "Fedora Sugar > >> on a Stick", "OpenSUSE S

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Philippe Clérié
> So, a possible solution could be calling the product marketed by SLs > "Sugar on a Stick" and each individual team and product "Fedora Sugar > on a Stick", "OpenSUSE Sugar on a Stick", etc. From time to time SLs > would decide to call and market as "Sugar on a Stick" a particular > release of a p

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-18 Thread Philippe Clérié
I think you're right on the money. I can understand why a teacher may not be interested in this discussion. Still, the debate is also very relevant. It's about how we're going to address your aunt's concerns. Think of it this way: nobody wants to know how sausage is made, right? Well, we're t

[Sugar-devel] Jabber on the server

2009-09-17 Thread Philippe Clérié
Is there any reason to prefer ejabberd on the server rather than another Jabber server? I am thinking of using jabberd2 instead. I can't seem to wrap my head around ejabberd's configuration file but I am quite comfortable with the xml used by jabberd2. -- Philippe -- The trouble with

Re: [Sugar-devel] Jabber on the server

2009-09-16 Thread Philippe Clérié
9/9/16 Philippe Clérié > > > Is there any reason to prefer ejabberd on the server rather than > > another Jabber server? I am thinking of using jabberd2 instead. > > From what I can understand, ejabberd was the only jabber server which > supported Sug

[Sugar-devel] Any pull with HP?

2009-09-16 Thread Philippe Clérié
:-) Does anybody have any pull with HP? For some incomprehensible reason they refuse to deliver the Mini 110 to Haiti. According to my vendor in Haiti, they won't even sell them 12 units FOB Miami. So we're now way behind as we're trying to find another supplier. I've suggested ZaReason to the

[Sugar-devel] Jabber on the server

2009-09-16 Thread Philippe Clérié
Is there any reason to prefer ejabberd on the server rather than another Jabber server? I am thinking of using jabberd2 instead. I can't seem to wrap my head around ejabberd's configuration file but I am quite comfortable with the xml used by jabberd2. -- Philippe -- The trouble with

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] SLOBs Position on SoaS

2009-09-16 Thread Philippe Clérié
I'll take that as a first approximation. Resources are always limited. On the other hand, perhaps someone should tell Caroline Meeks: she's out to conquer the world. :-) Her ambitions are not limited by the resources available. -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] SLOBs Position on SoaS

2009-09-16 Thread Philippe Clérié
ning in July. If so could someone please give me a pointer? Or a recap? -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. On Wednesday 16 September 2009 10:58:23 Peter Robinson wrote: > 2009/9/16 Philippe Clérié : > >> Isn't there a wider question

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] SLOBs Position on SoaS

2009-09-16 Thread Philippe Clérié
> Isn't there a wider question first? the one that asks if Sugar Labs is > actually interested in being a distributor rather than just an > upstream. > Sugar Labs needs to be a distributor because: 1) You need a product to market. The comparison with Gnome does not hold. There have always been

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-15 Thread Philippe Clérié
> > So you probably disagreed with my statement that SoaS is not about > installing user files to a hard drive. Or do you mean having the Base > OS on the drive, but the user files/activities directory on a stick? My use case does not require the user's environment to be portable. At least for

Re: [Sugar-devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-14 Thread Philippe Clérié
+1 I made a similar suggestion a couple of weeks back. Thinking as someone who will probably be in it up to his neck, on the teaching side, what I would like to see is a polished distribution, installable on a hard disk, released once a year around April-May. That will give me all summer to e

Re: [Sugar-devel] The ARM is near

2009-08-29 Thread Philippe Clérié
ppe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. On Saturday 29 August 2009 08:56:39 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > 2009/8/29 Philippe Clérié : > > Well, I wasn't attempting to solve anything. I thought I was > > just brainstorming. > > > > These past few w

Re: [Sugar-devel] The ARM is near

2009-08-29 Thread Philippe Clérié
Well, I wasn't attempting to solve anything. I thought I was just brainstorming. These past few weeks there have been a lot of discussions about processes. Meanwhile, I am heading into the classroom with a somewhat unstable and unfinished platform not to mention very little guidance as to exac

Re: [Sugar-devel] The ARM is near

2009-08-29 Thread Philippe Clérié
Why not treat Sugar as a distribution in its own right. As in: Sugar is a GNU/Linux distribution with Sucrose as it's user interface. It seems to me you're generally drifting in that direction. With Soas it's now treated more or less as a spin/remix so it's not that much of an extension. As an

[Sugar-devel] sugar at last installed on a hard disk

2009-08-05 Thread Philippe Clérié
I am happy to report that I finally have Sugar installed on a hard disk. In the end, an OpenSUSE Soas was successfully put on the hard disk of the HP Mini 110. I can now proceed and put things in motion to deploy come September. I have greatly appreciated the help I got on the list and on IRC.

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar and nfs

2009-08-04 Thread Philippe Clérié
OK! So I'm covered. :-) Thanks -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. On Tuesday 04 August 2009 14:39:43 Luke Faraone wrote: > On Aug 4, 2009, at 12:04, Philippe Clérié wrote: > > My immediate concern is that the usb stick starts up with

[Sugar-devel] sugar and nfs

2009-08-04 Thread Philippe Clérié
I've been so focused on just getting sugar on a hard disk that I've hardly taken the time to think of what comes next. In particular, the next hurdle will probably be getting it to work with the home directories on nfs. Has there been any experience with that? My immediate concern is that the u

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] Resolution considerations

2009-08-03 Thread Philippe Clérié
ble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. On Monday 03 August 2009 08:57:15 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > 2009/8/3 Philippe Clérié : > > At the moment, I can't see the entire dialog for Network > > settings on the HP Mini 110 and there's not even a scrollbar to > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] Resolution considerations

2009-08-03 Thread Philippe Clérié
ll, there are of course many netbooks with different > resolutions on the market but the vast majority of devices comes > with 1024*600. In fact the only 1024*576 resolution devices I'm > currently aware of are the HP Mini, Lenvo Ideapad S10 and the > Dell Mini 10. > Christoph >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] Resolution considerations

2009-08-03 Thread Philippe Clérié
The HP Mini 110 has a resolution of 1024 x 576. -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. On Monday 03 August 2009 05:47:41 Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi, > after looking around a bit I think it makes sense to design > Karma's Chakra and lesson menu arou

[Sugar-devel] Ticket 1116: X server does not start after Soas is install on hard disk

2009-07-31 Thread Philippe Clérié
Just added this ticket hoping it will help resolve the issue. I'd like to be able to move forward but so far the only thing that appears to work is Soas. BTW if I add a driver to Soas while running it, does it stay on the stick? I tend to think that only user changes are permanent. -- Phili

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Philippe Clérié
> For what it is worth, it is easy enough to add activities to the > Fedora SoaS; I don't doubt that. But at this stage I'm only looking at what is already packaged. TamTam does not seem to be packaged by Fedora or Ubuntu. > presumably you'll be doing a local replication of > your image? I am

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-29 Thread Philippe Clérié
that's the version I would adopt. -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. On Tuesday 28 July 2009 18:06:34 Walter Bender wrote: > 2009/7/28 Philippe Clérié : > > On Tuesday 28 July 2009 04:48:25 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > > > > Perhaps the

Re: [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

2009-07-28 Thread Philippe Clérié
On Tuesday 28 July 2009 04:48:25 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Yes, if deployers make very clear what is a priority for them and > do so in a compelling way, I'm sure volunteer developers will > make their plans accordingly. Perhaps the highest priority should be a Live CD/USB that is easily and reliabl

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on HP Mini 110

2009-07-27 Thread Philippe Clérié
ay 27 July 2009 11:30:41 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > 2009/7/27 Philippe Clérié : > > I have just failed an attempt to install Soas on a HP Mini 110. > > I get the same behaviour as when I tried the same thing on a > > KVM instance. The system simpy fails to load X and just shows a

[Sugar-devel] Sugar on HP Mini 110

2009-07-27 Thread Philippe Clérié
I have just failed an attempt to install Soas on a HP Mini 110. I get the same behaviour as when I tried the same thing on a KVM instance. The system simpy fails to load X and just shows a console login. I am attaching the Xorg.0.log file in the hope that someone will find something wrong that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Fedora

2009-07-15 Thread Philippe Clérié
o uncommon. On Wednesday 15 July 2009 07:22:20 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > 2009/7/15 Philippe Clérié : > > I've had both Soas and Sugar on Fedora installed in KVM > > machines. A year ago or so I had problems with the joyride > > builds, so that's progress... :-) > > J

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Fedora

2009-07-15 Thread Philippe Clérié
Thanks for the suggestion but it's not working. I've been trying for the past two hours. First, there is a problem with the partitionner, it hangs when formatting the root partition on the virtual disk with ext3. Eventually, I did that manually and skipped this step. The system installed but al

[Sugar-devel] Sugar on Fedora

2009-07-14 Thread Philippe Clérié
I've had both Soas and Sugar on Fedora installed in KVM machines. A year ago or so I had problems with the joyride builds, so that's progress... :-) Soas seems to work just fine so far. I have a couple of issues with Fedora but I am not sure yet they qualify as bugs. 1) I need a way to make Su

Re: [Sugar-devel] Haiti dormant (was Re: Sugar as desktop os)

2009-07-10 Thread Philippe Clérié
ly 2009 17:26:00 Edward Cherlin wrote: > 2009/7/10 Philippe Clérié : > > We're located in Haiti. > > Excellent. I had a hand in getting Kreyol localization started. > > > Sorry I left that off. And before anyone asks > > > > :-) we're not part of the pilot t

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar as desktop os

2009-07-10 Thread Philippe Clérié
e it if you and the teachers are > willing to collect the data. LOL! Get in line! But let's see what we can do. I certainly plan to document what I do on the computer side. -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. On Friday 10 July 2009 12:48:18 Edw

[Sugar-devel] Sugar as desktop os

2009-07-10 Thread Philippe Clérié
I am looking into implenting sugar for a Montessori school. The current plan is to start with 10 to 20 (depending on budget) computers for a group of about 100 students from 6 to 13, and usage would be on a rotating basis by groups. At this stage, there is no plan to supply each child with a