Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-15 Thread Manuel QuiƱones
2013/3/14 Daniel Drake : > > For example, what happens if a user who is on a proxy-free network > types "hello" into the proxy configuration textbox? Does that break > all networking? Yes, setting proxy mode to "Manual" then typing "hello" in the first input breaks networking in the current implem

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
> I think proxy configuration should be an optional extension that is > disabled by default, allowing a deployment to enable it. > > We can add a configuration to allow deployments to disable it. Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sug

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Martin Abente
Is it different from relying on a modem and having a wrong modem-config? I think there are scenarios where "normal" includes the proper proxy-config, otherwise browse won't work either. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:33 PM, James Cameron wrote: > But with modem-config a child cannot stop normal ope

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread James Cameron
But with modem-config a child cannot stop normal operation. With proxy, the child can stop normal operation, in that no Browse will work with wrong proxy. I think proxy configuration should be an optional extension that is disabled by default, allowing a deployment to enable it. On Thu, Mar 14,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Martin Abente
I think this feature (proxy-config) is useful, just as the modem-config is, which is included now. dsd's brings a valid questioning of whether this kind of "technical" features should be included or not. I think this particular matter requires a broader discussion about how we could conciliate sug

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > While I understand your point about the radio checkbox, > this show a few bugs or fails in design in Sugar too. > Trying right now I see: > * The text is confusing: > "Turn off the wireless radio to save battery life" > [] Radio > > Checked

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Gonzalo Odiard > wrote: > > About the network proxy configuration, I agree is better have a automatic > > configuration _if_possible_, but there are times when is not possible, > > then we should provide a so

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:35:26 -0600 > From: d...@laptop.org > To: gonz...@laptop.org > CC: alan...@hotmail.com; sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; > an...@activitycentral.com; alsr...@activitycentral.com > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configu

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > About the network proxy configuration, I agree is better have a automatic > configuration _if_possible_, but there are times when is not possible, > then we should provide a solution. Has been a request for a long time, > and the development

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
While I understand your point about the radio checkbox, this show a few bugs or fails in design in Sugar too. Trying right now I see: * The text is confusing: "Turn off the wireless radio to save battery life" [] Radio Checked is on or off? What means Radio? Is not clear * After uncheck the check

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: >>One problem that I have seen in various places, children untick the >>"Radio enable" checkbox in Sugar's control panel and then return their >>laptop for repair because they can't get online. I fear that proxy >>configuration could

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
>One problem that I have seen in various places, children untick the>"Radio >enable" checkbox in Sugar's control panel and then return their>laptop for >repair because they can't get online. I fear that proxy>configuration could >become support headache like this. Thinking in the same way, we mu

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Ajay Garg
Daniel, Your concerns are valid. All I can say that probably using an "automated" "transparent" proxy client-server setup is the answer, for getting the requirements met without bothering the kids. * The "automatic" mode can be set in the XO-images, via simple "OOB" scripts. * The "automatic" m

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > I'd like to propose "Network proxy configuration in Sugar" > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration I would say that this feature does not fit particularly nicely with some items of our guidelines: http://wiki.sugarlabs.o

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-02-01 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 25 January 2012 04:33, Jerry Vonau wrote: > On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 13:02 +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> Hi Sridhar and Jarry, >> >> can you give a bit of inside on the usage of that Feature in the field? >> So far I am clear that you did use the gnome-network section to set the >> proxy. To m

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-24 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Gary Martin's message of 2012-01-23 03:02:59 +0100: > Do you think this functionality could be folded into the Network CP UI or are > there a heap of inputs? We could make better use of Network CP horizontal > space regarding text blocks, and gain some vertical space to reduce pote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-24 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 13:02 +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 01/23/2012 03:05 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > On 23 January 2012 13:02, Gary Martin wrote: > >> Hi Sridhar, > >> > >> On 23 Jan 2012, at 01:08, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > >> > >>> On 19 January 2012 21:16, Simon Schampijer wro

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-24 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/23/2012 03:05 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 23 January 2012 13:02, Gary Martin wrote: Hi Sridhar, On 23 Jan 2012, at 01:08, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 19 January 2012 21:16, Simon Schampijer wrote: If OLPC-AU has been telling their users to set the proxy via GNOME before that i

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-22 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 23 January 2012 13:02, Gary Martin wrote: > Hi Sridhar, > > On 23 Jan 2012, at 01:08, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > >> On 19 January 2012 21:16, Simon Schampijer wrote: >>> If OLPC-AU has been telling their users to set the proxy via GNOME before >>> that is useful information. Other deployment

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-22 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Sridhar, On 23 Jan 2012, at 01:08, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > On 19 January 2012 21:16, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> If OLPC-AU has been telling their users to set the proxy via GNOME before >> that is useful information. Other deployments might have set a proxy in the >> build itself? > > T

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-22 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 19 January 2012 21:16, Simon Schampijer wrote: > If OLPC-AU has been telling their users to set the proxy via GNOME before > that is useful information. Other deployments might have set a proxy in the > build itself? To confirm, we do tell users to configure their proxy using the GNOME tool (g

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 01/18/2012 03:59 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: >> >> On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 16:52 +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: >>> >>> On 21/11/11 21:27, Anish Mangal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, >>>

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/18/2012 03:59 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 16:52 +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 21/11/11 21:27, Anish Mangal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to propose "Network proxy configuration in Sugar" http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Prox

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-17 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 16:52 +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 21/11/11 21:27, Anish Mangal wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi, > > > > I'd like to propose "Network proxy configuration in Sugar" > > > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2012-01-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 21/11/11 21:27, Anish Mangal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to propose "Network proxy configuration in Sugar" http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration - -- Anish Mangal Hi Anish, there have been discussions [1] on how this Feature work

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2011-11-21 Thread James Cameron
But don't forget that many deployments have solved this in build customisation, so check that what you do doesn't break what they do. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.s

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2011-11-21 Thread James Simmons
Yes, Sugar definitely needs this. There are probably many schools that use proxy servers to control what the kids can browse, etc. and there needs to be a simple way to set these up. James Simmons On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash:

[Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

2011-11-21 Thread Anish Mangal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to propose "Network proxy configuration in Sugar" http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Proxy_configuration - -- Anish Mangal Dextrose Project Manager Activity Central -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Com