Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-22 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Martin, On 22 Oct 2011, at 06:31, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Just to clarify, as yum install git is about the first thing I do (closely followed by yum install vim and pylint) on a fresh XO install I remembered

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Martin, On 22 Oct 2011, at 06:31, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Just to clarify, as yum install git is about the first thing I do

[Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, the bundlebuilder uses git to package the tarballs and xo-bundles [1]. I would therefore say, the git should be a dependency for the sugar-toolkit and should be added to the Platform components. Any objections about that? Regards, Simon [1]

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 21.10.2011, at 11:08, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 21.10.2011, at 11:02, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, the bundlebuilder uses git to package the tarballs and xo-bundles [1]. I would therefore say, the git should be a dependency for the sugar-toolkit and should be added to the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:10:25AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: [Just saw it actually does fall back to simply packaging everything. So there is no hard dependency on git] But does that fallback work? We've a ticket about it somewhere that suggests it does not. #11341. -- James Cameron

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, the bundlebuilder uses git to package the tarballs and xo-bundles [1]. I would therefore say, the git should be a dependency for the sugar-toolkit and should be added to the Platform components. Any objections

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/21/2011 11:19 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, the bundlebuilder uses git to package the tarballs and xo-bundles [1]. I would therefore say, the git should be a dependency for the sugar-toolkit and should be added

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@activitycentral.orgwrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:02:58AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, the bundlebuilder uses git to package the tarballs and xo-bundles [1]. I would therefore say, the git should be a dependency for the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 08:28:57AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@activitycentral.orgwrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:02:58AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, the bundlebuilder uses git to package the tarballs and xo-bundles [1].

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 02:31:54PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 08:28:57AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@activitycentral.orgwrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:02:58AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Paul Fox
simon wrote: Ok, the reason why I brought this up is that git is one of our main tools for development and if we ever want kids to start developing... by the time a kid (or anyone) is ready to need git as part of their development cycle, won't they likely already have mastered yum? paul

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Sebastian Silva
For that case there's a pure Python implementation of GIT but I haven't figured out yet how to use it.http://www.samba.org/%7Ejelmer/dulwich/ http://www.samba.org/~jelmer/dulwich/ http://www.samba.org/%7Ejelmer/dulwich/ It does seem to be currently mantained. Regards, Sebastian El 21/10/11

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Sebastian Silva
Only if they have root access :-/ El 21/10/11 09:55, Paul Fox escribió: simon wrote: Ok, the reason why I brought this up is that git is one of our main tools for development and if we ever want kids to start developing... by the time a kid (or anyone) is ready to need git as part

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Sebastian Silva
Only if they have root access :-/ El 21/10/11 09:55, Paul Fox escribió: simon wrote: Ok, the reason why I brought this up is that git is one of our main tools for development and if we ever want kids to start developing... by the time a kid (or anyone) is ready to need git as part

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: Only if they have root access :-/ You can easily allow non root access to use yum for installs Peter El 21/10/11 09:55, Paul Fox escribió: simon wrote:      Ok, the reason why I brought this up is that git

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Would be great have yum (and/or the gnome frontend) enabled to user olpc. Do you know why is not enabled? Gonzalo On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: Only if they have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 21/10/11 11:02, Peter Robinson escribió: You can easily allow non root access to use yum for install There are over .5 million children in Uruguay who don't have access. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Peter Robinson
On 21 Oct 2011 17:54, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: El 21/10/11 11:02, Peter Robinson escribió: You can easily allow non root access to use yum for install There are over .5 million children in Uruguay who don't have access. That is ultimately a deployment decision and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:17:39PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: I personally treated SP as a runtime dependencies stack. Making bundles is a development workflow and it will be useless in pure runtime environment. True, but we aren't shipping a pure runtime environment. ;-} -- James Cameron

[Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread forster
(added IAEP to the distribution because this is more about the education than the tech) simon wrote: Ok, the reason why I brought this up is that git is one of our main tools for development and if we ever want kids to start developing... The idea that including git has educational

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Gary Martin
On 21 Oct 2011, at 10:19, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, the bundlebuilder uses git to package the tarballs and xo-bundles [1]. I would therefore say, the git should be a dependency for the sugar-toolkit and should

Re: [Sugar-devel] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Just to clarify, as yum install git is about the first thing I do (closely followed by yum install vim and pylint) on a fresh XO install I remembered to take a note of the install size – for the current olpc