[Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 18:07 +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: > My GSoC project involves building an abstraction layer above > pywebkitgtk/hulahop (wiki/AbstractBrowser). > > While the project itself isn't related, this abstraction layer and one > of it's lower layers (i.e. pywebkitgtk) would become a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-26 Thread Lucian Branescu
There already is a mostly complete pywebkitgtk activity, Surf. There has been a lot of debate on whether webkit is better than gecko for our purposes. I also plan to only support what is reasonably easy to support and let the abstraction layer be leaky. This way, the new Browse can much more easi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-26 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Lucian Branescu wrote: > There already is a mostly complete pywebkitgtk activity, Surf. > > There has been a lot of debate on whether webkit is better than gecko > for our purposes. I also plan to only support what is reasonably easy > to support and let the abstra

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-26 Thread Lucian Branescu
This is part of why I think having an abstraction layer is more important than having a complete pywebkitgtk browser activity. It would be even cooler if Read could also use this abstraction layer for epub. On 26 April 2010 21:10, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Luci

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-26 Thread Lucian Branescu
This is part of why I think having an abstraction layer is more important than having a complete pywebkitgtk browser activity. I would be even cooler if Read could also use this abstraction layer for epub. On 26 April 2010 21:10, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Lucia

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-26 Thread Lucian Branescu
This is part of why I think having an abstraction layer is more important than having a complete pywebkitgtk browser activity. I would be even cooler if Read could also use this abstraction layer for epub. On 26 April 2010 21:10, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Lucia

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-26 Thread Bobby Powers
I wrote surf a while ago, and it was quite an easy port. In fact, the demo browser for pywebkitgtk was (at least at one point) based on browse. I did most of the work in a day and a half, but ran into problems with both webkit's packaging and the feature-completeness of pywebkitgtk (the ability t

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 23:29 +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: > This is part of why I think having an abstraction layer is more > important than having a complete pywebkitgtk browser activity. > > I would be even cooler if Read could also use this abstraction layer for epub. Now it makes sense. As lo

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-27 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Bobby Powers wrote: > I wrote surf a while ago, and it was quite an easy port.  In fact, the > demo browser for pywebkitgtk was (at least at one point) based on > browse.  I did most of the work in a day and a half, but ran into > problems with both webkit's packag

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-27 Thread Lucian Branescu
I plan to use current hulahop/pywebkitgtk to start out since there's less to figure out. Since it's an abstraction layer, the backends can be switched later. I need a lot of feedback on what the abstraction layer itself needs to do. Afaik, only Browse and Read use browser engines so far. And then

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-27 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 17:38 -0700, Bobby Powers wrote: > I wrote surf a while ago, and it was quite an easy port. In fact, the > demo browser for pywebkitgtk was (at least at one point) based on > browse. I did most of the work in a day and a half, but ran into > problems with both webkit's packa

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-27 Thread C. Scott Ananian
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:56 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >>> There are also gir bindings for webkit (in webkit's trunk), so it >>> might be worth investigating their completeness, especially since >>> pywebkitgtk seems to be unmaintained, as Sayamindu pointed out. >> >> I believe we use the GIR

Re: [Sugar-devel] Did someone say Webkit?

2010-04-29 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 22:10, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Lucian Branescu > wrote: >> There already is a mostly complete pywebkitgtk activity, Surf. >> >> There has been a lot of debate on whether webkit is better than gecko >> for our purposes. I also plan to on