Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-27 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/3/27 Daniel Narvaez : > On 26 March 2013 21:55, Manuel Quiñones wrote: >> Right Daniel, could be. At some point of the gtk3 port and touch >> feature development it became a waste of efforts to bother the list >> with our patches. It was like a theatre play, Simon or me sending a >> patch,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-27 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 March 2013 21:55, Manuel Quiñones wrote: > Right Daniel, could be. At some point of the gtk3 port and touch > feature development it became a waste of efforts to bother the list > with our patches. It was like a theatre play, Simon or me sending a > patch, the other ack-ing or nack-ing, no

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-27 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 09:55 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: 2013/3/26 Daniel Narvaez : [...] We also had periodic design meetings guiding features. I wonder if that kind of discussion could be had on the mailing list rather than in meetings. It's problematic to find a time that works for everyone and ma

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/3/26 Daniel Narvaez : > On 26 March 2013 12:21, Manuel Quiñones wrote: >> When I started in this project, my patches received reviews from many >> people, not only maintainers. Many discussions went by. I don't see >> that happening anymore. > > Could it be because most patches are posted i

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can give my two cents > (disclaimer: I'm sorry if I misunderstood facts or misquoted people): > > What could this mean in context of sugar/mainline: > * Have one or two maintainers. Simon and Man

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 March 2013 18:57, Anish Mangal wrote: > What could this mean in context of sugar/mainline: > * Have one or two maintainers. Simon and Manuq are excellent. They are > responsible for setting roadmaps, deadlines, and making releases. > * Have multiple people with commit access authority. Danie

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Ajay Garg
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Anish Mangal wrote: > I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can give my two cents > (disclaimer: I'm sorry if I misunderstood facts or misquoted people): > > With dextrose, we had the same bottleneck problem, of patches getting > stuck in the review queue, then

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Anish Mangal
I don't have a dog in the fight, but I can give my two cents (disclaimer: I'm sorry if I misunderstood facts or misquoted people): With dextrose, we had the same bottleneck problem, of patches getting stuck in the review queue, then the commit queue. One associated problem is that the longer a pat

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 March 2013 12:21, Manuel Quiñones wrote: > When I started in this project, my patches received reviews from many > people, not only maintainers. Many discussions went by. I don't see > that happening anymore. Could it be because most patches are posted in trac now? I'm not sure it's the o

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 March 2013 12:26, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 03/26/2013 12:21 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: >> >> I would like to applaud the discussion. >> >> Yes, I think we are blocking too much, in regards to stuff that is out >> of bugfixing, and polishing the gtk3 port. This is indeed not good >> for

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 12:21 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: I would like to applaud the discussion. Yes, I think we are blocking too much, in regards to stuff that is out of bugfixing, and polishing the gtk3 port. This is indeed not good for the community. When I started in this project, my patches receive

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Manuel Quiñones
I would like to applaud the discussion. Yes, I think we are blocking too much, in regards to stuff that is out of bugfixing, and polishing the gtk3 port. This is indeed not good for the community. When I started in this project, my patches received reviews from many people, not only maintainers.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 11:13 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 26 March 2013 10:53, Simon Schampijer wrote: That is bad of course. Could have been several reasons. Maybe the decoupling of patches and the bug tracker, maybe just felt of the table... Sometimes a ping is valid option. But yes, the easiest area

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 26 March 2013 10:53, Simon Schampijer wrote: > That is bad of course. Could have been several reasons. Maybe the decoupling > of patches and the bug tracker, maybe just felt of the table... Sometimes a > ping is valid option. But yes, the easiest area to solve. I did try to ping a couple of ti

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/25/2013 09:32 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Forgot to reply all... -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Narvaez Date: 25 March 2013 21:12 Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews To: Simon Schampijer On 25 March 2013 12:37, Simon Schampijer wro

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews

2013-03-25 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Forgot to reply all... -- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Narvaez Date: 25 March 2013 21:12 Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal on how to speed up patch reviews To: Simon Schampijer On 25 March 2013 12:37, Simon Schampijer wrote: > To improve that situation, I think we have