Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think we should certainly *not* branch until January/Australia release. If anyone disagrees now it's the time to speak up. Really, looking forward I think we should switch to continuous development and never

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think we should certainly *not* branch until January/Australia release. If anyone disagrees now it's the time to speak up. I think not forking should be fine as long as people are happy to hold off from landing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 8 October 2013 15:18, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think we should certainly *not* branch until January/Australia release. If anyone disagrees now it's the time to speak up. I think not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 8 October 2013 15:18, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: It depends if it's proper continuous development where it's all small and incremental improvements with the platform being constantly usable and features and it also depends on the end users of the product. I agree and I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 8 October 2013 15:14, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Continuos development do not work well with downstream/upstream projects. Well, I think that statement would need to be justified. We need go back to release cycles aligned with Fedora/Gnome if possible. See, I'm not sure

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2013 15:18, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think we should certainly *not* branch until January/Australia

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 8 October 2013 17:19, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: We (Gonzalo and I) have some new features we'd like to land in 102. How to proceed? Can we schedule an IRC discussion? Maybe just start a 0.102 features email thread? The details of what you would like to land and a rough

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2013 15:18, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Walter Bender
[11:23] walterbender dnarvaez_: I think we need an irc discussion of the release schedule [11:23] walterbender email is too slow for a discussion [11:24] gonzalo_odiard walterbender, +1, i just was thinking the same [11:24] dnarvaez_ I'm happy to have an irc discussion when I'm around [11:24]

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-08 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hello, we had a discussion in irc, of which Walter posted the log. The current proposal on the table is On 31/10 * Release 0.100 * Create a branch * Discuss the 0.102 features * Schedule another 6 months cycle Other outcomes * Australia would be using 0.101 in some schools. I think that would

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like it might be an opportunity for upstream to get feedback from real users, which we need desperately. So I think it would be a good idea to refocus 0.100 around this deployment. So 1 Stay in bugfixing mode

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-07 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 8 October 2013 00:43, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like it might be an opportunity for upstream to get feedback from real users, which we need desperately. So I think it would be a good

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-07 Thread Chris Leonard
If a branch is going to be declared, we will need to address it in Pootle as well. Please advise. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 October 2013 00:43, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Daniel Narvaez

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-07 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi, I think we should certainly *not* branch until January/Australia release. If anyone disagrees now it's the time to speak up. Really, looking forward I think we should switch to continuous development and never branch again. But that certainly will require more discussion. On 8 October 2013

[Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi, so the situation isn't changed much. Very few bug fixes landed, very few bug reports (which probably means little testing). I personally wouldn't feel comfortable releasing 0.100 or code freezing, so I tend to think we should just plan for 0.99.5 in another 4 weeks, on the 31 Oct. Thoughts?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Manuel Quiñones
For the record, this is the chat we had today in #sugar dnarvaez, tch and me: manuq dnarvaez, I'm thinking about the release.. dnarvaez_ heh me too a bit... dnarvaez_ somewhat lost dnarvaez_ I'm not sure if anyone depends on 0.100 being released soon btw manuq dnarvaez, yeah manuq on one hand,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Walter Bender
Sorry I was not able to join the earlier discussion. One data point: In Australia, we are planning to release Sugar 100 (plus some patches we hope to upstream to Sugar 102) to a few schools for extensive testing (the build we are calling 1B). The intention is a broader-based release of Sugar 100

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Leonard
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like it might be an opportunity for upstream to get feedback from real users, which we need desperately. So I think it would be a good idea to refocus 0.100 around this deployment. So 1 Stay in bugfixing mode

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 3 October 2013 17:55, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like it might be an opportunity for upstream to get feedback from real users, which we need desperately. So I think it would be a good

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 10:47:08AM -0300, Manuel Quiñones wrote: For the record, this is the chat we had today in #sugar dnarvaez, tch and me: manuq dnarvaez, I'm thinking about the release.. dnarvaez_ heh me too a bit... dnarvaez_ somewhat lost dnarvaez_ I'm not sure if anyone depends on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-10-03 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 4 October 2013 00:06, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 10:47:08AM -0300, Manuel Quiñones wrote: For the record, this is the chat we had today in #sugar dnarvaez, tch and me: manuq dnarvaez, I'm thinking about the release.. dnarvaez_ heh me too a bit...

[Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-03-26 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hello, we are pretty late in the cycle for the next release without much development having been landed on the master branch. At this point I think we need to consider what our options are. If we had to release 6 months after 0.98.0, that would be the beginning of June, thus only 2 months and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-03-26 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we are pretty late in the cycle for the next release without much development having been landed on the master branch. At this point I think we need to consider what our options are. If we had to release 6

Re: [Sugar-devel] Next release

2013-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/26/2013 01:20 PM, Walter Bender wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we are pretty late in the cycle for the next release without much development having been landed on the master branch. At this point I think we need to consider what