RE: Query about solstices

2001-12-20 Thread Roger Bailey
John's question is a good one. Accurate determination of the solstice would have been difficult for ancient cultures due to the low rate of change of the declination and sunrise azimuth. The techniques suggested will work but they require repeated observations under difficult conditions. Clear ski

RE: accuracy

2001-12-20 Thread Roger W. Sinnott
At 08:25 AM 12/21/01 +1100, David Pratten wrote: >Dear Walter, > >Greetings. > >There is another factor which limits sundial accuracy to about +/-22 >seconds. This is the variation in the value of Equation of Time from >year to year within a leap cycle. See >www.sunlitdesign.com/infosearch/sun

RE: accuracy

2001-12-20 Thread David Pratten
Dear Walter, Greetings. There is another factor which limits sundial accuracy to about +/-22 seconds. This is the variation in the value of Equation of Time from year to year within a leap cycle. See www.sunlitdesign.com/infosearch/sundialaccuracy.htm David www.sunlitdesign.com -Origin

MC

2001-12-20 Thread John Schilke
A very merry Christmas to all the diallists! John Schilke

accuracy & attachments

2001-12-20 Thread walter.jonckheere
Hello again, thank you for all for the reactions, but what is wrong with my feeling about a second, when I say you can feel it , I mean of course you can count in seconds & not in milli- or nano- seconds. I had thought about the sharpness of the shadow, but forgotten to mention it. Considering the

On attached images

2001-12-20 Thread Anselmo P�rez Serrada
I do have a slw connection and an ooold computer but, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, please keep sending SMALL images: they are nice and sometimes MUCH more explanatory than a whole paragraph. But, well, maybe Robert is right and it would be a politer idea to post the URL when writing to t

Giant Sundial for Britain...

2001-12-20 Thread Peter Tandy
Hi all, A report in today's Daily Telegraph newspaper in the UK, says that there are plans to build a 132 feet tall sundial in the English Midlands. It will consist of"3 giant sails of stainless steel erected in the shape of a pyramidwith shadows thrown by two of the sails on the third al

Ceiling Sundial

2001-12-20 Thread Romano, Judith
Hello Sundial Friends: I am planning on making a ceiling sundial (as a project with my children in an actual science/math application). I have the tiny lipstick mirror mounted at my window frame (half way up), and was told that the easiest way (void of all the mathematical calculations that th

Re: accuracy

2001-12-20 Thread Peter Tandy
I consider a >second ideal as one can feel it, I mean it is a timespan well related to the >human body, one second you live, the next you may be dead; Walter, This is very strange statement. True that you live one second and are dead the next, but by the time that happens it's a bit late to st

Accuracy - Attachments

2001-12-20 Thread Gianni Ferrari
Hi Walter, It is not possible to increase the dimension of a sundial to increase the precision of the reading and to reach the possibility to read intervals of time very small. The reason is in the diameter of the Sun, because of which when the style goes away from the (horizontal) plane its sha

Re: attachments

2001-12-20 Thread Th. Taudin-Chabot
those attachments anyhow. Thibaud Chabot At 16:25 19-12-2001 -0500, you wrote: I think attachments (less than 200K) are fine. The recipient can make the choice whether to download them or not. This is a useful way to share ideas. Bill Gottesman --

Re: accuracy

2001-12-20 Thread BillGottesman
Patrick powers is correct in noting that the 0.5 degree width of the sun (corresponding to 2 minutes of time) creates a shadow penumbra that is virtually impossible to read to the second. But, a sharp edge can be achieved by a focusing dial, which creates an crisply defined image of the sun,

accuracy

2001-12-20 Thread Patrick Powers
Message text written by "walter.jonckheere" >I have a feeling 1 second could be obtained< The ability of a conventional sundial to show accurate time is usually compromised by the half degree angle subtended at the earth by the sun's disc. This makes shadows fuzzy and it makes it very difficult

Attachments, Pictures

2001-12-20 Thread Edley McKnight
Dear Membership, Pardon if this is a repeat. My mail has had a couple of hiccups. Yes, I will send no attachments. Yes, I'll post pictorial or lengthy content on one of my websites for a while, or send it directly to those requesting it without copying the info to the list. Bear in mind th

RE: Query about solstices

2001-12-20 Thread Andrew James
Surely the whole business of finding the solstice is like a slower analogue of finding noon by observing solar altitude? Just around noon the altitude changes extremely slowly, and it is hardly possible to judge the time of maximum altitude exactly. Here, today, noon is at 12:04:49 but even if w

accuracy

2001-12-20 Thread walter.jonckheere
Greetings to all We all know that the atomic clock has the highest possible resolution, while for sundials 2 to 1 minute seems to be the best achievement. I have a feeling 1 second could be obtained considering what follows. ( I consider a second ideal as one can feel it, I mean it is a timespan w

Re: Dodwell Dial

2001-12-20 Thread Peter Mayer
Dear Bill, Luke, Edley, et al., >Is there something wrong with the list? It seems that Edley is responding to >a message about a Dodwell dial, but I never received it. My apologies. As Edley noted in a later not , I sent a direct copy to Edly, and then inadvertently sent my posting