Hi all,

Returning from holidays, I drop in a little late, I know.

Johns intention makes good sense and is absolutely worthwhile. Just one
additional advantage of listing/graphing the combined  EoT+longitude
correction may be mentioned. For sundials which are more than 4 degrees away
from the standard meridian, the correction has the same sign all year. In
much of continental Western Europe, for instance, the clock is always ahead
of the sun. This avoids the addition or subtraction of negative correction
values, which otherwise puzzles most people (including sundialists!)

Best regards,
Frans Maes
53.1 N, 6.5 E
www.fransmaes.nl/sundials/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sundial List" <sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 6:44 PM
Subject: EOT + Longitude Correction Table


> Hello All,
>
> Some of you wrote me and seemed very confused with my inquiry about a way
to
> get a EOT table that is longitude corrected.  You ot understand what I
> wanted.  So I'll try to explain it here. (thanks to everybody who sent me
> info on this)
>
> Sample letter:
> "I still cannot figure out your EoT problem; EoT does not depend on
> longitude, it depends on an agreed absolute (GMT) and changes so little in
> any time zone you cannot see the difference on a dial.  Maybe I am missing
> something, I often do these days."
>
> Yes, you are missing something.  And it's so simple you will kick
yourself.
> You're thinking too deeply!  I'll try to explain...
>
> Of course you are correct in implying that EOT values are "Universal" and
> are basically the same all over the world, at any longitude or latitude
and
> on any given date. You can use the same EOT graph with almost any sundial
> anywhere in the world. But you know that already.  So far so good.
>
> But if somebody really wants to know "clock" time, then not only does he
> have to correct his sundial readings for EOT, but he also has to correct
for
> his longitude (and Daylight Saving Time if applicable).  This additional
> longitude correction is expressed as a plus or minus value in minutes and
> seconds.  But you know this already.  So far so good.
>
> Now this double correction is sometimes confusing to non-dialists (it's a
> triple correction if one has to correct for Daylight Savings too).  So to
> reduce two time reading corrections into just one correction, you can add
> the EOT correction to the longitude correction since both expressed in
> minutes and seconds, and you come up with a new EOT graph or table that
> incorporates the longitude time correction in its values.
>
> Now do you get it?  Neat huh!
>
> For my sundial customers, I usually build the longitude correction
directly
> into my sundial faces so the customer doesn't have to do the longitude
> correction, just the EOT correction.  This combined EOT+Longitude
Correction
> Table is very useful if you have an antique pre-timezone sundial or any
> sundial that doesn't have a built-in longitude correction.  The downside
is
> that you have to make a unique customized EOT table for each sundial,
> depending on its particular longitude.
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
>
>
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>

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