Re: Monumental Sundial; 14 missing seconds

2008-02-17 Thread Frank King
Dear Chris, I am a bit behind with my reading and I have only just read your comments, and corrected comments, on the umbra discussion. Subject to your corrections, I concur with almost all you say but I feel a little amplification of one of your follow-up remarks is needed. You say... If the

Re: Monumental Sundial; 14 missing seconds

2008-02-17 Thread Chris Lusby Taylor
Dear Frank, Try as I might, I can find no published information on where people judge the edge of a shadow to be. It would certainly be an interesting experiment. As John Davis observed, the human eye is very non-linear. Experience with photography seems to suggest that, like the ear, it is

Re: Monumental Sundial; 14 missing seconds

2008-02-17 Thread JOHN DAVIS
Dear Frank, Chris and the List, An experiment to determine the position of the shadow edge was reported by Allan Mills in his article Sunlight and Shadows - or, what's the point of big sundials?, British Sundial Society Bulletin 96(1) pp.22-27 (February 1996). Allan's key result for the

Re: Monumental Sundial; 14 missing seconds

2008-02-17 Thread Roger Bailey
I remember John Carmichael did some experiments on a truly monumental sundial, The McMath-Pierce Solar Observatory, Kitt Peak Arizona. I think he put the judgment point for the transition well towards the dark side at about 85% dark. That was long ago and far away so I would appreciate any

James Morrison book The Astrolabe

2008-02-17 Thread John Pickard
Greetings all, With their usual impersonal and rather scary efficiency, Amazon have just delivered to me a copy of Jim Morrison's book The Astrolabe. Ordered on-line 11 Jan, had to wait for stock (as Jim warned us), delivered on 18 Feb in Australia. Not bad. If you haven't bought the book,