Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Gianni, the term Italic was not associated in the first time at the Italian Hours. I believe in the first time the italian hours was named simply ab occasum Solis. Because this hours was used spcially in Italy, in a second time was named Italian hours. In the gomonic books written in

Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-28 Thread Frank King
Dear Gianni, It is good to have Mario's comment... Mario Catamo has suggested me that very probably the term Italic (in Italic hours) comes from the Latin word Italicus (that means Italian), that the word Italianus doesn't exist in Latin and that until the end of the XVIII century almost

Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-28 Thread Gianni Ferrari
Braunschweig Cathedral sundial again ! I don't know the article of Curt Roslund in the BSS Bulletin, september 2005, pag. 116-119 about the the vertical sundial of Braunschweig Cathedral of 1346 with the equal hour lines and a polar gnomon but … in 1999 I have written a Note, published in

Fwd: Mac sundial design program?

2008-08-28 Thread Fred Sawyer
I'm forwarding this for Roger Bourke. I know the question has come up before. Perhaps a listmember who is familiar with Macs can respond to him offline. Thanks. Fred Sawyer -- Forwarded message -- From: Roger, Margaret Forrest Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Aug 28, 2008

Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-28 Thread Gianni Ferrari
Braunschweig Cathedral sundial again - 2 I am afraid but, perhaps, I have not understood anything! :-( Mario Arnaldi has written me that the Brunswick sundial on which time ago I have written a Note is one of the two ancient clocks of the cathedral, BUT IT IS NOT that on which we are

Re: equal and unequal hours

2008-08-28 Thread Roger Bailey
Hello Gianni, I conclude that your analysis is correct for the early dial (1334). See attached note. The 1334 lines are correct for an orthogonal gnomon. The later dial (1346) has the correct lines for a polar gnomon. Whether it had a polar gnomon before one was put on in 1985 remains

Seismic Shift at Braunschweig

2008-08-28 Thread Roger Bailey
Many of you may be wondering why there is this focus on a couple of old sundials on a medieval church in Germany. Let me offer a perspective. To me, this is important because it represents seismic shift in the understanding of time and the universe. The early dial at Braunschweig, perhaps 1334,

1334? or !434

2008-08-28 Thread Roger Bailey
Gavin Menzies book is 1434 The year the Magnificent Chinese Fleet Sailed to Italy and Ignited the Renaissance' Not 1334, the year of the first sundial at Braunschweig. This is significant for understanding what people knew and when they knew it. Regards Roger From: Roger Bailey Sent:

RE: 1334? or !434 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-08-28 Thread Hank de Wit
I know we are getting off subject here, but Gavin Menzies book is full of errors (actually lies, because he knows they are wrong). He doesn't let facts get in the way of a good story. The publisher should be ashamed. Treat the book as a good piece of fiction. There are a number of debunking