Re: part 2 of longitude correction

2011-02-09 Thread Roger Bailey
Hello Donald, I suggested you learn by doing it yourself. Sometimes you learn from your mistakes. I made a mistake saying the sine changed to cosine in the southern hemisphere. I realized this error soon after clicking "send" button. For the southern hemisphere, the sign changes + to- but the s

Re: part 2 of longitude correction

2011-02-09 Thread Roger Bailey
Hello Donald, Three degrees of longitude is 12 minutes of time, 4 minutes per degree, 60 minutes (1 hour) per 15°, 24 hours per 360°. Your longitude is 153 East. You see the sun 12 minutes before the the time zone meridian. Solar noon, when the sun is above your longitude, is 11:48 zone time, o

RE: part 2 of longitude correction

2011-02-09 Thread John Carmichael
(I hit the wrong button in my last email and it went out without my letter- sorry!) Hi Donald: I understand your question, because I had this same question years ago when I was a beginner. The answer is no. To re-phrase your question so that everybody understands it, you are asking

RE: part 2 of longitude correction

2011-02-09 Thread John Carmichael
From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Donald Christensen Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:52 PM To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: part 2 of longitude correction I'm laying out lines for a new dial I may not have been clear. I don't inte

Re: part 2 of longitude correction

2011-02-09 Thread Simon [illustratingshadows
No, see previous reply.   A horizontal dial hour line angles are:-  arctan( tan(longDiff + hourFromNoon*15) * sin (lat) )   the relationship of longitude difference to hour line angle involves the sine of the latitude, and only as the sine of the latitude approaches 1, as when approaching the po

Re: longitude correction

2011-02-09 Thread Simon [illustratingshadows
What is rotated by the longitude difference is only an equatorial or an armillary dial. The resulting horizontal or vertical or whatever dial that results from its surrogate equatorial dial will then have correct hour line angles.   The "old wive's trick" only works for lattitudes as they approa

part 2 of longitude correction

2011-02-09 Thread Donald Christensen
I'm laying out lines for a new dial I may not have been clear. I don't intend to rotate the gnomen. The dial will still point true north By labeling 12:12 as noon and 13:12 as 13:00, I am rotating the hour marks. My question is, Is it by an even 3 deg? -- Cheers Donald 0423 102 090 This e-ma

Re: longitude correction

2011-02-09 Thread Larry McDavid
Moreover, simply *rotating* the sundial will not correctly apply a longitude correction; the hour lines must be re-calculated to maintain accuracy. So, it is better to simply make the correction arithmetically (constant throughout the year). Larry On 2/9/2011 2:05 PM, Willy Leenders wrote:

Re: longitude correction

2011-02-09 Thread Willy Leenders
Make no effort, Donald. Let your sundial be a sundial. The longitude correction turns your sundial to a watch. But you've already a watch. Solar time - you do'nt have it - can only be given by your uncorrected sundial. Willy Leenders Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium) Visit my website about the sundi

longitude correction

2011-02-09 Thread Donald Christensen
How do I design a longitude correction in my sundial? Correct me if I'm wrong My horizontal dial is for Brisbane. The longitude is 153 deg and the standard meridian is 150. This is a 3 deg difference. I'll then rotate the hour lines by 3 deg to compensate -- Cheers Donald 0423 102 090 This

RE: Sundials on Google Maps

2011-02-09 Thread J. Tallman
Hello All, I also have a representation of many of the Spectra sundials I have made over the years on my web site. You can see the World of Artisan Sundials here: http://www.artisanindustrials.com/world-of-sundials/artisan-sundials-world.h tml The page requires a small Google Earth plug-in to