Another gnomon teaser?

2018-01-18 Thread Patrick Powers
Following Frank’s teaser about circular-section gnomons there are of course many other gnomons of varying cross sections to be seen. Those of rectangular section on vertical dials have always interested me since it can often be difficult to know where in the shadow the time should be measured

Re: Hail to the Chief

2018-01-18 Thread john.pickard
Thanks Frank. Political comment is inappropriate on the Sundial List, but I just couldn't help myself. My apologies to all. Still, at least he passed the cognition test. The other day I did a memory test to see if I still have all my faculties at the age of 73. I missed two questions. One

Re: Hail to the Chief

2018-01-18 Thread Frank King
Dear Geoff and John, > Surely Geoff Thurston is right? Yes. He is! You don't even need to think in three dimensions. The edges of the shadow must run to the base of the gnomon and must touch tangentially. The base is indeed an ellipse. The contact points are always opposite one another (by

Re: Hail to the Chief

2018-01-18 Thread John Foad
Dear Frank, Surely Geoff Thurston is right? The width of the 6am shadow would be one inch. (Assuming 6am and noon are local solar time, and ignoring penumbral effects due to the sun not being a point source.) If the hours are marked out as on Greg McDonagh's Pebble Dial (your article in

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2018-01-18 Thread Michael J. Harley via sundial
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2018-01-18 Thread Michael J. Harley via sundial
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Re: Hail to the Chief

2018-01-18 Thread Frank King
Dear John, A moot point... > ... why should any sane normal > person want to help Trump... Ah. I was thinking in terms of "displacement therapy". Thinking about sundials must be better for one's mental health than drinking copious quantities of Diet Coke? Just trying to be helpful :-) Frank

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2018-01-18 Thread Francesco Ferro via sundial
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Re: Hail to the Chief

2018-01-18 Thread Gianni Ferrari
Very quickly. The reason is the diameter of the Sun and the different distances between a point of the rod and its shadow at noon and at sunset. At summer solstice, for example, if 10 is the distance of a point P from the center of the sundial, the distances between P and its shadows are (if I'm

Re: Hail to the Chief

2018-01-18 Thread Geoff Thurston
Dear Frank, Can I help the POTUS? No. Can I answer your question? Maybe but I am not used to working in imperial units. Consider a horizontal cross section of the gnomon at any height above the dial plate. The shape of the section would be an ellipse with minor axis equal to 0.5" aligned