Re: Shadow Tapering

2008-02-13 Thread JOHN DAVIS
Hi ChiLian, That's very interesting - I haven't heard before of a dial delineation being pre-distorted in this way to allow for the penumbra effect. Perhaps the reason that the 1 minute correction that you adopted was too much is that your latitude (24.79 N) is so much less than the

Re: Shadow Tapering

2008-02-13 Thread Chris Lusby Taylor
. Regards Chris Lusby Taylor - Original Message - From: JOHN DAVIS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sundial List Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:39 AM Subject: Re: Shadow Tapering Hi ChiLian, That's very interesting - I haven't heard before of a dial

RE: Shadow Tapering

2008-02-10 Thread JOHN DAVIS
Hi Patrick, John C and the List, The problem of the shadow not properly filling the noon gap is the same umbra/penumbra related one which affects the reading accuracy of dials with 'solid' gnomons at all times of the day. This is usually ignored by dial makers but I know of one

Re: Shadow tapering thread

2008-02-10 Thread Th. Taudin Chabot
Mac, You are absolutely right. The problem is that normally I hit the 'reply' button to reply to an email. In all emaillist emails I receive this works fine. Only in this emaillist the replybutton creates only the address of the original sender and not of the list-server. So I have to 'reply

RE: Shadow Tapering

2008-02-10 Thread John Goodman
On Feb 10, 2008, at 6:00 AM, Patrick Powers wrote: Indeed, if you want a bit of fun, if you have Google Earth and care to type in 52 45' 16.28N, 01 08' 12.33 W then you go directly to the second of these dials. Even if you don't have Google Earth you can go to the http://

Re: Shadow Tapering

2008-02-09 Thread John Carmichael
Tony all: One more comment on shadow tapering solutions. Your solution Tony is to decrease the size of the Noon Gap to compensate for the decreased observed shadow width. My two different proposed solutions that I described in my last letter involved changing the width of the gnomon instead of

RE: Shadow Tapering

2008-02-09 Thread John Carmichael
Dear Patrick: I completely agree with you Patrick! Tubular gnomons are good. And I think your comment directly pertains to the shadow tapering problem. In fact, using tublar gnomons could be the best solution to the shadow tapering problem. If you make the dial with a tublular gnomon, and you

RE: Shadow Tapering

2008-02-09 Thread Patrick Powers
If you make the dial with a tublular gnomon, and you design the face so that the time is read from the center of the shadow instead of the edges of the gnomon's shadow, then you eliminate the Noon Gap. Do you think this is the best solution? From the point of view of an accurate dial, one that