I found Mario's explanations on Roman and European hour systems most
fascinating: thank you.
I have a tangentially related question or questions; Mario mentioned
that different times were appropriate to different people (country or
city dwellers, perhaps).
I understand (largely from "Heavenly Cl
> TO CONFIRM: this means that the legal day and the
> legal date always changed at midnight in Italy (in
> Roman times, in times when Italian hours were used
> and, of course, today)?
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It can be useful to you read this interesting article written by Mary
Quinlan-McGrath titled "T
Dear Mario,
I have now read all your messages again. As Jim
Talliman says...
> Thanks for some very interesting scholarship!
One important thing you said is:
When in Italy the hour system changed with the
new hours "ab occasu solis", nothing changed
for lawyers and notaries, the roman ci
> For ordinary people, the change from
> unequal hours to equal hours must have
> been very difficult.
>
> There are records of people objecting
> to the 10 lost day in 1582. I am
> surprised that there are no records
> of people objecting to changing from
> unequal hours to equal hours.
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Dear Mario,
Thank you again for all your help.
I now have a better understanding of
how the Roman Army kept time both day
and night.
For ordinary people, the change from
unequal hours to equal hours must have
been very difficult.
This is more difficult than changing
from liras to euros. There
> I read in an ancient text but I can't remember now where that the romans
> soldiers put wax on the walls of the vase of the clepsitrae to get bettere
> measure in shorter nights. Unfortunately I can't give you reference just
> because I forgot the text and the name of the autor, so I don't know w
> Were these equal hours counted 1 to 24
> or were they counted as two periods of
> 1 to 12?
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Thear Frank,
I don't know this. I don' remember any ancient text that tell us how the
civil day was counted with hours. All I can say is that the equal hours were
used in ancient astronom
So, every night at sunset, you change the weights
to suit the night-time temporal hours? And then
you change the weights again at sunrise?
This was very hard work for the temperatore or
clock-keeper :-)
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I really don't know if they do it or not. I only say that we don't have to
lo
Dear Mario,
A Very Happy Equinox to you!
Thank you very much for your splendid
answers to all my questions. You have
provided me with many useful references
which I shall study later.
When your book is finished please let us
all know!
I was particularly interested in your
comment about early c
s. In that
year John I win Milan and ruled on the Nort of Italy. In those years was pope
John XXII that was the first pope that take care of the Ave Maria's prayer,
that was chanted at the end of the day. After, the coming of John I Milan got
his first clock for italian hours in 1336. After
My last e-mail ends with: «Question number 3 need more time. I will do it nex
email.».
Ok Now I have a little time to continue.
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3. Given that their days ran from midnight to
midnight, why did the Romans (Italians)
change to Italian Hours when they adopted
equal hours?
Dear Mario,
Thank you very much for your splendid
reply. The quotations from Censorinus
are exactly what I was looking for!
I like the title: De die natali liber!
You say that the intere nychthemeron
was divided into 24 equal hours from
midnight till the next midnight.
Were these equal hours co
9 21.30A:
"Mario Arnaldi"Cc: Ogg: Re: The End
of the Day
Dear Mario,
Very interesting your answer. It would be nice, at least for me, if you could
answer the other questions.
Best regards,
Ricardo
Em 18/03/2009 12:45, Mario Arnaldi escreveu:
Dear Frank, you are right in all
Dear Mario,
Very interesting your answer. It would be nice, at least for me, if you could answer the other questions.
Best regards,
Ricardo
Em 18/03/2009 12:45, Mario Arnaldi escreveu:
Dear Frank, you are right in all you are writing in your email.Yes I can give some answere to your question
Dear Frank, you are right in all you are writing in your email.
Yes I can give some answere to your question but it takes a lot. All these
arguments are part of the first part of the book that I'm writing, but it is
hard to explane in a simple email. I have written an article splitted in two
par
Dear All,
There is good evidence that:
In Ancient Greece the day ran from sunrise
to sunrise. [That's when the day and the
date changed.]
In Ancient Rome the day ran from midnight
to midnight.
Most people, in both places, used unequal
hours (day and night).
The introduction of mechani
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