Re: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7

2019-12-04 Thread Laurent Bercot
The browser is vastly superior for learning all about unfamiliar or moderately familiar software, but for the quick lookup of something you primarily know about, there's no substitute for a quick "man execlineb". https://lmgtfy.com/?q=execlineb&iie=1 -- Laurent

Re: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7

2019-12-04 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 12/04, Laurent Bercot wrote: > > What about mandoc? > > The colour of this bikeshed is not up for debate. > > If you want man pages for skaware, provide me with: > 1. a reasonable source format (e.g. not roff, so mandoc is right out) > 2. a tool that can be built using *only* a C compiler (so

Re: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7

2019-12-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 10:40:14 -0600 "J. Lewis Muir" wrote: > On 12/04, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > > Jan Braun: > > > > > 2) runit has manpages. s6 has HTML. :( > > > > > Daniel J. Bernstein had something to say on that subject, two > > decades ago. See the "Notes" section of > > http:

Re: s6 usability

2019-12-04 Thread Laurent Bercot
From a Linux distribution perspective, there's also the question of if s6 can be made a drop-in replacement for daemontools, since it does follow djb's naming scheme. In gentoo, there are various packages that depend on virtual/daemontools; for example, the nullmailer test suite uses ipcserver. Fr

Re: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7

2019-12-04 Thread Laurent Bercot
What about mandoc? The colour of this bikeshed is not up for debate. If you want man pages for skaware, provide me with: 1. a reasonable source format (e.g. not roff, so mandoc is right out) 2. a tool that can be built using *only* a C compiler (so as to keep bootstrapping skaware easy), that c

Re: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7

2019-12-04 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 12/04, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Jan Braun: > > > 2) runit has manpages. s6 has HTML. :( > > > Daniel J. Bernstein had something to say on that subject, two decades ago. > See the "Notes" section of http://cr.yp.to/slashdoc.html . > > I generate both manual pages and HTML from a comm

Re: s6 usability

2019-12-04 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Samuel Holland: Then, with the symlinks, s6 could "provide" virtual/daemontools. I do this with the nosh toolset already, for Debian. Several of the "shim" and "-run" packages, which are separate from the main tools packages, "provide" stuff. I even have a things such as a dummy "nosh-log

Re: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7

2019-12-04 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Jan Braun: 2) runit has manpages. s6 has HTML. :( Daniel J. Bernstein had something to say on that subject, two decades ago. See the "Notes" section of http://cr.yp.to/slashdoc.html . I generate both manual pages and HTML from a common DocBook XML master in the nosh toolset. And the DocBo

Re: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7

2019-12-04 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Some of those are common. I looked at similar stuff in daemontools, where runit got some of this code from, when I packaged it up with some of the other Bernstein softwares some years ago. However, you have missed the point of HASSHORTSETGROUPS. There's no point in having conditionally compi

Re: runit patches to fix compiler warnings on RHEL 7

2019-12-04 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Laurent Bercot: It looks like several distributions have their own version of runit; they are maintained by the distros themselves. Further to all that: I believe, although things may have changed, that the Debian maintainer for runit is open to patches. * https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ru