Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-09 Thread Steve Litt
ould *anybody* configure their services with XML, thereby requiring the init system to have a built in XML parser? XML parser in PID1, what could possibly go wrong? SteveT Steve Litt August 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting: Just the Facts http://www.troubleshooters.com/tjust

Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 14:59:08 -0400 Jim Kinney <jim.kin...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sep 7, 2015 1:43 PM, "Steve Litt" <sl...@troubleshooters.com> > wrote: > > > On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 11:21:24 -0400 > > Jim Kinney <jim.kin...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Re: anopa 0.2.0

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:50:19 +0200 Olivier Brunel j...@jjacky.com wrote: Hi Steve, On 08/11/15 20:40, Steve Litt wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:58:59 +0200 Hi j, I just got done reading http://jjacky.com/anopa/ . I love the inclusion of the needs directory, as well

Re: OpenRC now supports daemon supervision using s6

2015-07-25 Thread Steve Litt
go with s6 out of the box, but I guess OpenRC is more corporationally correct or something like that, and as such, I'm glad it can use s6 to do the supervision (and sysvinit to do the PID1, you can't make this up, folks). SteveT Steve Litt July 2015 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st

Re: s6: compatibility with make3.82

2015-07-22 Thread Steve Litt
statement. Here's my response to the less than two years old requirement, penned long before I knew you, so please don't take it personally: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/politics_of_dependencies.htm IMHO two years is way too stringent a requirement. SteveT Steve Litt July 2015 featured

How to alt-init Lubuntu?

2015-07-14 Thread Steve Litt
partition. Have any of you had experience with situations like this, and what steps did you take to figure out how to alt-init it. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt July 2015 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21

Re: First thoughts on s6

2015-06-18 Thread Steve Litt
with the document. By the way, Avery, that's a slick solution to a real problem. Nice one! SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

s6 ordering and run-once?

2015-06-16 Thread Steve Litt
. Does anyone know if there are ways to order beyond one symlink at a time or s6-svwait? Does anyone know how to do a run-once service without putting an infinite sleep loop at the end? Also, are there any flag files, other than down, of which I should be aware? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt June

Re: comparison

2015-06-16 Thread Steve Litt
That's an understatement! And, as the old saying goes, the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is today. Thanks Avery! SteveT On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:09:32 -0700 James Powell james4...@hotmail.com wrote: And supervision-scripts has been that generic profile that

First thoughts on s6

2015-06-16 Thread Steve Litt
Starting tty5 2 exec /sbin/getty tty5 For the tty5 log: #!/bin/sh exec s6-log t ./main They seemed to work well. Anyway, so far so good. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: comparison

2015-06-16 Thread Steve Litt
with S6's command names and s6-svstat's output, it worked like a charm, and it appears to work just like Felker-daemontools-encore. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: comparison

2015-06-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:29:15 +0200 Laurent Bercot ska-supervis...@skarnet.org wrote: On 16/06/2015 04:54, Steve Litt wrote: One thing I can tell you is that daemontools and daemontools-encore were never intended to be init systems, whereas I'm pretty sure that runit, s6 and nosh intended

Re: comparison

2015-06-15 Thread Steve Litt
Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: comparison

2015-06-15 Thread Steve Litt
, and keep running than original daemontools. SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Suckess Init + daemontools-encore + LittKit

2015-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: Readiness notification for systemd

2015-06-13 Thread Steve Litt
*them* add the extra word in their unit files. SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: Readiness notification for systemd

2015-06-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:35:13 +0200 Laurent Bercot ska-supervis...@skarnet.org wrote: On 13/06/2015 21:46, Steve Litt wrote: When I write my own daemons (for use with daemontools, daemontools-encore, runit, and soon to be S6), I use stdout to write to the log. Wouldn't the writenewline

Re: What interrupt does Ctrl+Alt+Delete send PID1?

2015-06-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:31:44 +0200 Laurent Bercot ska-supervis...@skarnet.org wrote: On 12/06/2015 02:54, Steve Litt wrote: * Whole thing running in a VirtualBox VM Ah, I'm not sure how all this plays with virtualization. VirtualBox looks like a full virtualizer with a separate kernel

Re: Describing daemontools in 300 words?

2015-06-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 04:35:09 +0200 Laurent Bercot ska-supervis...@skarnet.org wrote: On 13/06/2015 03:19, Steve Litt wrote: When I tried S6 about 8 months ago (and I knew a lot less then), I was unable to get it installed and running. I already asked, and will ask again: please try

Describing daemontools in 300 words?

2015-06-12 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, If you had to describe daemontools, in the context of a general purpose process manager, to a technical person, in 300 words, what things would you say and what things would you leave out? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http

Re: What interrupt does Ctrl+Alt+Delete send PID1?

2015-06-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 20:06:40 -0300 Guillermo gdiazhartu...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-06-12 9:44 GMT-03:00 Steve Litt: On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:31:44 +0200 Laurent Bercot wrote: Well, your host system will definitely catch the 3 finger salute; it won't be sent as is to your guest system

Re: Describing daemontools in 300 words?

2015-06-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 02:27:12 +0200 Laurent Bercot ska-supervis...@skarnet.org wrote: On 13/06/2015 02:21, Steve Litt wrote: If you had to describe daemontools, in the context of a general purpose process manager, to a technical person, in 300 words, what things would you say and what

Re: What interrupt does Ctrl+Alt+Delete send PID1?

2015-06-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 10:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Robert Hencke robert.hen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Hi all, What interrupt does Ctrl+Alt+Delete send PID1? Google just tells how to tweak /etc/inittab to react to Ctrl+Alt

Re: What interrupt does Ctrl+Alt+Delete send PID1?

2015-06-11 Thread Steve Litt
Init property, it appears to be a Plop property. SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: Shutdown/reboot script order?

2015-06-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 09 Jun 2015 18:08:08 +0200 Laurent Bercot ska-supervis...@skarnet.org wrote: On 09/06/2015 16:24, Steve Litt wrote: * killall5 -15; sleep 2; killall5 -9; sleep 2 * umount -a * mount -o remount,ro /dev/sda1 * /sbin/halt or /sbin/reboot Could somebody confirm which order

Shutdown/reboot script order?

2015-06-09 Thread Steve Litt
order these things come in? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: dependant services

2015-06-08 Thread Steve Litt
, SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: staggering runsv startup

2015-06-04 Thread Steve Litt
management system would be the first to do that without kludges like I enumerated in other emails. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: staggering runsv startup

2015-06-04 Thread Steve Litt
Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: staggering runsv startup

2015-06-04 Thread Steve Litt
you really need is ordering of the managed services, and as far as I know, no daemontools inspired program does that in a straightforward manner. SteveT Steve Litt June 2015 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key

Re: anopa: init system/service manager built around s6

2015-04-11 Thread Steve Litt
, rather than concurrently, so you might not want to use it to init something with fifty daemons. But it's still pretty good, and it's a good learning tool, IMHO. SteveT Steve Litt Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28

Re: runit source control?

2015-02-10 Thread Steve Litt
be sent in as patches against the last tarballed version. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance

Re: Could s6-scscan ignore non-servicedir folders?

2015-01-21 Thread Steve Litt
/enable_oneshots.sh in stage 1, and right after that truncate and make executable $whatever/enable_oneshots. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance

Re: I need your advice on this web page

2015-01-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 14:12:07 +0100 Laurent Bercot ska-supervis...@skarnet.org wrote: On 16/01/2015 01:05, Steve Litt wrote: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/init/features_and_benefits.htm (I'm lacking sleep and I'm going to talk about systemd. Not a good combination. So, apologies

I need your advice on this web page

2015-01-15 Thread Steve Litt
that you are all doing! Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance

Re: thoughts on rudimentary dependency handling

2015-01-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:25:28 -0800 Avery Payne avery.p.pa...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: I'm pretty sure this conforms to James' preference (and mine probably) that it be done in the config and not in the init program

Execline: was s6 init-stage1

2015-01-06 Thread Steve Litt
, complete with the diagrams, and didn't understand a word of it. I think a lot more documentation and a lot of examples would help immensely. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance

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