Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign

2009-03-25 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 10:15 -0700, xChris wrote: > > As you can have a live system running from the uSD, I don't think its was a > good > idea for the Openmoko to have a uSD slot that would allow removal/insertion > without shutting down the FR... > > > > ... > ... > It is not very user frien

Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign

2009-03-25 Thread xChris
I had in mind an external uSD slot like other devices. I agree that they should built an easily accessible uSD slot. The same applies for the battery. I put a small tape there too, in order to remove it quickly. Am Mi 25. März 2009 schrieb xChris: > > As you can have a live system runnin

Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign

2009-03-25 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 25. März 2009 schrieb xChris: > > As you can have a live system running from the uSD, I don't think its was a good > idea for the Openmoko to have a uSD slot that would allow removal/insertion > without shutting down the FR... Don't you think removing the card would shut down Neo reliabl

Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign

2009-03-25 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 25. März 2009 schrieb Johny Tenfinger: > Heh, I'm wondering... What's wrong with me, if I can remove SD card > from FR's reader easily without any tools, handles or hacks? ;) SD-mounts are very different on holding force from device to device. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digit

Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign

2009-03-25 Thread Joachim Ott
2009/3/25 D. Gassen : > > >> Heh, I'm wondering... What's wrong with me, if I can remove SD card >> from FR's reader easily without any tools, handles or hacks? ;) > > You must have the same flaw like me :-) > > It seems that everybody has different fingers. Some may have very > short fingernails o

Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign

2009-03-25 Thread Seth Rothenberg
Someone posted something on this list to the effect that most FreeRunners have a uSD removal tool inside the case... you have to take it out to access the uSD anyway. When it's not being used to remove the uSD, it can be stored in the SIM slot, and get you phone service. Just watch out for pop-f

Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign

2009-03-25 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 25 March 2009, xChris wrote: > As you can have a live system running from the uSD, I don't think its was a > good idea for the Openmoko to have a uSD slot that would allow > removal/insertion without shutting down the FR... If that's the reasoning then we shouldn't be able to hotplug

Re: [gentoo] zhone

2009-03-25 Thread Daniel Benoy
No, it's just zhone that experiences this problem. The logs don't say much when I try to click, only: 2009-03-25 14:44:12,019 INFO IDLE STATE = idle 2009-03-25 14:44:12,704 INFO IDLE STATE = busy 2009-03-25 14:44:23,293 INFO IDLE STATE = idle 2009-03-25 14:44:23,305 INFO IDLE STATE = busy -

Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign

2009-03-25 Thread xChris
As you can have a live system running from the uSD, I don't think its was a good idea for the Openmoko to have a uSD slot that would allow removal/insertion without shutting down the FR... ... ... It is not very user friendly, I have to admit. I wish there was a slot that would allow for re

Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign

2009-03-25 Thread D. Gassen
> Heh, I'm wondering... What's wrong with me, if I can remove SD card > from FR's reader easily without any tools, handles or hacks? ;) You must have the same flaw like me :-) It seems that everybody has different fingers. Some may have very short fingernails or their fingers are bigger so th

Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign

2009-03-25 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Heh, I'm wondering... What's wrong with me, if I can remove SD card from FR's reader easily without any tools, handles or hacks? ;) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support

Re: [gentoo] zhone

2009-03-25 Thread arne anka
- configure zhone to write to a log file (see the first lines of /usr/bin/zhone or the archives) - look at X.org.log - look at ~/.xsession-errors do you experience similar issues with other apps too? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org

[gentoo] zhone

2009-03-25 Thread Daniel Benoy
I've installed zhone on gentoo on my freerunner and and it's not responding to any of my clicks. When I tap on one of the icons on the main screen it flashes as if responding to the click, but doesn't actually bring up the associated interface, and when the 1/2/3/4 screen lock comes on, it does

Re: FR: Problems, problems: please help

2009-03-25 Thread Sean Chadwell
Tom: I hadn't seen your documentation, yet (though I generally agree that there's lots of excellent stuff available). Thanks for the links; I like your writing as much as anything else (which in any case I won't have time to try before the weekend). -Sean On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Tom Yat

Re: FR: Problems, problems: please help

2009-03-25 Thread Tom Yates
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Toni Mueller wrote: > can we perhaps agree on "all hardware usable on a daily basis"? my 'moko, which is the same hardware rev. as yours, is my daily usable phone. it took 3 days of solid work to make the phone usable when i first got it. with later revisions, this time has

Re: [HW] microSD card mount needs redesign

2009-03-25 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 24.03.2009 at 09:53:50 +, Al Johnson wrote: > On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Alexander Shulgin wrote: > > The card mount just _needs_ redesign. With current version one have > > to apply too much force at the sensitive parts of the device to get > > the damn card out of it! > > htt