Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-04 Thread Andrey Filippov
Carlos, >From you photos it does not look that any pins are broken, no pads from the PCB are peeled off, so any computer/electronics repair shop (or hobbyist with the fine parts soldering skills) can easily put the connector back. SATA external disk - we did not have problems with any, except the

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-04 Thread Oleg
Carlos, > So you are saying its posible to reuse the black conector soldering > back to the 10369? wouldn't it be better to find a new black piece > (from the diagram i supose its the one called J6 CF/HDD adapter) i > mean because of the broken pins. > The pins looked fine on your P1110893-50q.j

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-04 Thread Carlos Padial
hi oleg Ok, i have removed the black piece from the 103692, now i see it like in the wiki So you are saying its posible to reuse the black conector soldering back to the 10369? wouldn't it be better to find a new black piece (from the diagram i supose its the one called J6 CF/HDD adapter) i mean

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-03 Thread Carlos Padial
2012/2/3 Elphel Support | Andrey Filippov : > Looking at the photos (they are very helpful, thanks!) i explain myself with photos better than writting in english :P > I realized that the > camera did have a manufacturing defect. It did not prevent the camera from > working properly, but made the

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-03 Thread Carlos Padial
2012/2/3 Oleg : > Carlos, > > Btw, did camogm stop detecting the camera after you disassemble it for the > first time? no, the disk was detected because after the first disassemble i formatted the disk as you know and there was when i was able to record from camogm, get the disk detected, even wor

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-03 Thread Elphel Support | Andrey Filippov
Carlos, Looking at the photos (they are very helpful, thanks!) I realized that the camera did have a manufacturing defect. It did not prevent the camera from working properly, but made the board too fragile - more than it has to be. All the connector pins were soldered OK (you can see the traces i

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-03 Thread Oleg
Carlos, Btw, did camogm stop detecting the camera after you disassemble it for the first time? So, you will have to disassemble the whole camera to get the 10369 board out. Please be careful with releasing the cables as the connectors can be broken pretty easily. Check out these pictures: http:/

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-03 Thread Andrey Filippov
Hello Carlos, I'm sorry I was not quick enough to tell you not to open the camera as the problem is not likely to be a hardware one (if there was no contact you'll not be able to read anything from the HDD). We definitely can fix that connector, but even with the proper paperwork to avoid extra ta

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-03 Thread Sebastian Pichelhofer
Ah, I did not know it is a camera with INTERNAL HDD. Yes makes perfect sense. All my comments assumed it is an external HDD connected via SATA port. Regards Sebastian On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 17:16, Andrey Filippov wrote: > Sebastian, > > 4096 byte blocks are not the problem in the 353 cameras -

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-03 Thread Andrey Filippov
Sebastian, 4096 byte blocks are not the problem in the 353 cameras - they all now have this block size. Please see our Development Blog post on that matter: http://blog.elphel.com/2010/11/elphel-cameras-and-4096-4k-sector-drives/ And the disk was correctly formatted and tested _in the camera_ (no

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-03 Thread Sebastian Pichelhofer
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 16:44, Carlos Padial wrote: >> OK so do I understand this correctly that the new 4K block size of >> newer harddisks is the problem: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_sector ? > > dont know, but this you say remember me something readed about this > digging in the list ar

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-03 Thread Carlos Padial
> OK so do I understand this correctly that the new 4K block size of > newer harddisks is the problem: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_sector ? dont know, but this you say remember me something readed about this digging in the list archive. But i dont fully understand if it was the same case.

Re: [Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-03 Thread Sebastian Pichelhofer
OK so do I understand this correctly that the new 4K block size of newer harddisks is the problem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_sector ? Since the embedded linux in the 353 camera is already several years old it could well be the case that it has problems with 4K sectors. Carlos, one idea:

[Elphel-support] the problems from the hdd (in short)

2012-02-03 Thread Carlos Padial
Thanks to oleg who kindly help me a lot yesterday, we have narrow down the problem to this one: # fdisk -l Note: sector size is 4096 (not 512) Disk /dev/hda: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1824 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 4096 = 65802240 bytes Disk /dev/hda