On 6/6/2020 5:46 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 6/6/20 1:25 PM, Frog wrote:
On 6/5/2020 4:19 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote:
On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:
Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?
Frog
I always thought that email messages went
On 6/5/2020 2:28 PM, EE wrote:
Frog wrote:
On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:
Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?
Frog
I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing
message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my
On 6/5/2020 4:19 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote:
On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:
Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?
Frog
I always thought that email messages went into that accounts Sent folder
and not the Local Folders > Sent fol
On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:
Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?
Frog
I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing
message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my
problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see
On 6/1/2020 2:55 PM, EE wrote:
Frog wrote:
Before I start, I am about to say many things in this message that
have already been the subjects of some of my earlier messages.
Quickly stated...I am not making any progress in finding a solution
for my SeaMonkey problems.
I really am having
On 6/3/2020 10:48 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Frog wrote:
Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?
Frog
Why are you opening new threads?
You asked me a question, and I will reply to that question. Yes, I have
sent several connected threads over the past
Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?
Frog
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addressed to and
there was my problem. I changed the address to
mozilla.support.seamonkey and then the message sent as usual. In fact,
I had to change the to address in this message from Daniel
to mozilla.support.seamonkey.
I hope this information will help in solving your problem.
Frog
P
On 5/31/2020 5:43 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 5/31/2020 2:02 PM, Frog wrote [in part]:
>> I am receiving daily messages on my computer to the effect that
>> SeaMonkey has crashed. I have tried to chase down what might be causing
>> this endless string of problems without
and
not be able to communicate with anybody for help?
Frog
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On 5/19/2020 2:47 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
Frog wrote:
On 5/18/2020 10:00 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
Frog wrote:
How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password
Manager to save a password?
Frog
You aren't getting asked when you log into a site for the first
On 5/18/2020 10:00 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
Frog wrote:
How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password
Manager to save a password?
Frog
You aren't getting asked when you log into a site for the first time?
I just logged into my mozillaZine account for the first time
How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager
to save a password?
Frog
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On 5/10/2020 6:40 AM, Daniel wrote:
Frog wrote on 10/05/2020 9:41 AM:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software (I
have addressed this problem in recent exchanges on this user group)
. I am now
On 5/10/2020 8:43 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 5/10/20 8:20 AM, Frog wrote:
On 5/10/2020 2:07 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while
being able to open my email
On 5/10/2020 2:07 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...
Check:
right click
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...
Check:
right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading&
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...
Check:
right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading&
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...
Check:
right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading&
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...
Check:
right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading&
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...
Check:
right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading&
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...
Check:
right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading&
and
there have been a number of updates since that time. All updates were
allowed to write over my existing software...no start over new has been
involved for many years.
I welcome your advice on this subject.
Frog
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Sorry, I forgot to remove the last part of this message under Frog.
This part is where I was trying to figure out how best to put this
information into an understandable form.
Frog
On 5/5/2020 9:00 AM, Frog wrote:
On 5/4/2020 6:04 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I immediately see
On 5/4/2020 6:04 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I immediately see the following message every time I attempt to open a
newsgroup message:
Launch Application
This link needs to be opened with an application.
Send to:
Pick and app
seamonkey.exe
Choose other Application Choose
On 5/4/2020 11:04 PM, Daniel wrote:
Frog wrote on 5/05/2020 6:54 AM:
I immediately see the following message every time I attempt to open a
newsgroup message:
Launch Application
This link needs to be opened with an application.
Send to:
Pick and app
seamonkey.exe
Choose other Application
to the newsgroup.
I'm sure that I am not the first person to encounter this
problem...thus, I would welcome help with solving this problem.
Of note, the same SeaMonkey software does in fact open my normal email
messages with no problem.
Thanks for any help you send my way on this subject.
Frog
On 5/4/2020 5:52 AM, Daniel wrote:
Frog wrote on 4/05/2020 10:05 AM:
On 4/29/2020 7:41 PM, Frog wrote:
I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL
email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can
only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access
On 4/29/2020 7:41 PM, Frog wrote:
I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email
account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access
web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is
accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every
On 5/3/2020 11:31 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:
On 5/2/2020 8:25 PM, Frog wrote:
On 5/2/2020 7:51 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:
On 5/2/2020 5:24 PM, Frog wrote:
{Much text deleted}
---I believe that I can (with help from knowledgeable/technical
savvy individuals on this newsgroup) make adjustments to my
On 5/2/2020 7:51 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:
On 5/2/2020 5:24 PM, Frog wrote:
{Much text deleted}
---I believe that I can (with help from knowledgeable/technical savvy
individuals on this newsgroup) make adjustments to my original
usern...@verizon.net account to make it compatible with my
, Frog, that if you delete both your accounts on SeaMonkey,
you will be deleting all the e-mails you have sent and received on
those two accounts!
Least that's what happened to me! ;-(
I haven't been following this thread closely, but at this point, a
couple of thoughts...
Something
On 5/1/2020 11:18 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/30/20 4:58 PM, Frog wrote:
On 4/30/2020 3:34 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/30/20 2:16 PM, Frog wrote:
On 4/29/2020 8:10 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
Frog wrote:
I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL
email account on SeaMonkey without
On 5/1/2020 11:18 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/30/20 4:58 PM, Frog wrote:
On 4/30/2020 3:34 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/30/20 2:16 PM, Frog wrote:
On 4/29/2020 8:10 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
Frog wrote:
I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL
email account on SeaMonkey without
Frog
Email Address f...@verizon.net
SMTP Server
Settings
Description f...@verizon.net
Server Name smtp:aol.com
Port465
Connection security SSL/TLS
Authentication method Normal password
User Name Frog
Server Settings
Server Type POP Mail ServerPort 993
On 4/30/2020 3:34 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/30/20 2:16 PM, Frog wrote:
On 4/29/2020 8:10 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
Frog wrote:
I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL
email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can
only access web pages using SeaMonkey
On 4/29/2020 8:10 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
Frog wrote:
I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email
account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only
access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is
accessible only thru Thunderbird. I
On 4/30/2020 12:58 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email
account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only
access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is
accessible only thru
On 4/30/2020 12:58 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email
account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only
access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is
accessible only thru
On 4/30/2020 12:58 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email
account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only
access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is
accessible only thru
simple-to-
follow instructions as to how to make that happen.
My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version
2.53.1
Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions.
Frog
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On 4/13/2020 11:47 AM, NFN Smith wrote:
Frog wrote:
Some you have given me much help with an earlier thread relating to
this the subject of this message...Subject: Not able to send
messages.
Here is a list of things I must learn about to make the change from
Verizon to AOL> ISP.
I no
system?
I don't know whether I will be able to open your response ... I hope so
as I am having some problems with my computer. Once I cure this
problem, I will be seeking help with my other problem(s).
Frog
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are software on my
computer.
Have I forgotten anything?
I will continue using the same Verizon email address on the AOL system.
I would welcome any help or guidance with the above that comes my way.
Frog
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Frog wrote:
As you probably noticed in one of my earlier messages, I sent a Test
message to see if I was able to send a help message to this group. That
message seemed to make it to this address. Thus I am now going to state
my problem and hope somebody comes to my rescue.
Some time ago
wizard.
Exactly. We don't know what Frog is trying to do.
Thanks for helping this 83 yr old beginner level technician solve a
problem with his out-going mail situation. Here is what my Mail &
Newsgroup Account Settings > Server Settings are:
Verizon
Server type - POP Mail Server
Serv
Frog wrote:
As you probably noticed in one of my earlier messages, I sent a Test
message to see if I was able to send a help message to this group. That
message seemed to make it to this address. Thus I am now going to state
my problem and hope somebody comes to my rescue.
Some time ago
David H. Durgee wrote:
Frog wrote:
David H. Durgee wrote:
Frog wrote:
Frog wrote:
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Frog wrote:
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)
Go
Frog wrote:
Frog wrote:
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Frog wrote:
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)
Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing
Server
David H. Durgee wrote:
Frog wrote:
Frog wrote:
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Frog wrote:
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)
Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP
Frog wrote:
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Frog wrote:
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)
Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing
Server(SMTP) Settings
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Frog wrote:
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)
Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing
Server(SMTP) Settings.
Click Edit
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)
Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP)
Settings.
Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User
WaltS48 wrote:
On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:
WaltS48 wrote:
Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)
Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP)
Settings.
Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.
Seems to be a problem since
and Authentication
Connection security: SSL/TLS
Authentication method: Normal password
User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was
changed to my complete email address.
OK Cancel Help
I hope that I made the change as you suggested.
Frog
appreciate any help you send my way on this subject.
Windows 10 - SeaMonkey 2.531
Frog
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EE wrote:
Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.foxnews.com/; on this
server.
Reference #18.b600c045.1575045417.6edeaaf0
I'm receiving the above message when trying on sea monkey to access fox
news page. It's intere
Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.foxnews.com/; on this
server.
Reference #18.b600c045.1575045417.6edeaaf0
I'm receiving the above message when trying on sea monkey to access fox
news page. It's interesting that when
opens normally. SeaMonkey was working fine last night but not
working this morning. Any ideas to help me get SeaMonkey working again
would be appreciated.
Frog
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Nuno Silva wrote:
On 2019-10-31, Frog wrote:
I have been informed that my messages sometimes include a series of
??. I'm not sure why this happening and if in fact is is me or
something going on with the recipient computer. It has been suggested
to me that it has to do with two different
in the process (Microsoft and Apple). Any thoughts how this is
happening and how I can stop the ?? would be appreciated.
Frog
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Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
Frog wrote:
I am seeing the following message when I visit this site ---
http://castleinthesand.com/ocean-city-maryland-web-cam/
Quote
Blocked by Content Security Policy
This page has a content security policy that prevents it from being
loaded in this way
in this way because the
page has a content security policy that disallows it.
Unquote
Operating System - Windows 10 - 64 bit
Seamonkey Version - 2.49.5
I was able to see this information prior to installing SeaMonkey 2.49.5
and now is see this message. Why?
Frog
I am sure that there must be some way to stop adds from showing up on my
computer. I have searched the internet for a program that will put an
end to my add problem with no joy. Some of what I read was above my
technical ability to follow. Any suggestions appreciated.
Frog
Frog wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
On 7/26/2018 10:46 AM, Frog wrote:
I think I know the answer to my question before I ask it; but here goes
my question anyhow...Is it possible to have two SeaMonkey programs
connected to a single ISP that are both identified as default? I have
been having some
David E. Ross wrote:
On 7/26/2018 10:46 AM, Frog wrote:
I think I know the answer to my question before I ask it; but here goes
my question anyhow...Is it possible to have two SeaMonkey programs
connected to a single ISP that are both identified as default? I have
been having some difficulty
ating system is Windows 10 with the latest version of SeaMonkey.
Frog
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WaltS48 wrote:
On 7/20/18 7:44 PM, Lee wrote:
On 7/20/18, WaltS48 wrote:
On 7/18/18 6:13 PM, Frog wrote:
Question about Webroot Secure Anywhere Security and Windows Defender
Security on a Windows 10 system. Webroot is currently protecting my
system and Windows Defender is turned off
Question about Webroot Secure Anywhere Security and Windows Defender
Security on a Windows 10 system. Webroot is currently protecting my
system and Windows Defender is turned off. Is this the way my system
settings should be configured?
Frog
Ray_Net wrote:
Frog wrote on 09-07-18 23:00:
Frog wrote:
Any message sent my way that includes an attachment is being
deleted before it arrives on my computer. All messages that do not
have an attachment are arriving okay. Here is what I'm looking at in
the way of my computer system/set
Frog wrote:
Any message sent my way that includes an attachment is being
deleted before it arrives on my computer. All messages that do not have
an attachment are arriving okay. Here is what I'm looking at in the way
of my computer system/set-up:
I am using a desktop computer.
I am
with a
major upgrade.
I'm looking for help with finding a solution for this problem.
Thanks in advance for any help sent my way.
Frog
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Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Frog wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Frog wrote:
Believe it or not---the problem has been solved. The password I
needed to enter my Inbox was not connected to my home Inbox but an
Inbox located at my CPA.
CPA? Certified Public Accountant?
Yes
Okay more
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Frog wrote:
Believe it or not---the problem has been solved. The password I
needed to enter my Inbox was not connected to my home Inbox but an
Inbox located at my CPA.
CPA? Certified Public Accountant?
Yes
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Frog wrote:
I upgraded SeaMonkey to 2.49.1 yesterday. Now I am getting the
following message:
"Inbox is protected. Please enter a Document Open Password."
I have never established such a password on any system that I have ever
owned. How do I fix this problem?
Window
I upgraded SeaMonkey to 2.49.1 yesterday. Now I am getting the
following message:
"Inbox is protected. Please enter a Document Open Password."
I have never established such a password on any system that I have ever
owned. How do I fix this problem?
Window
Bill Spikowski wrote:
Frog wrote:
Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to
be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established?
What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present
inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox
Daniel wrote:
Frog wrote:
My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she
had just received on our computer. I thought to myself that somehow
the "leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the
Preferences. I checked the "S
Felix Miata wrote:
Frog composed on 2017-12-12 01:17 (UTC-0500):
My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she had
just received on our computer. I thought to myself that somehow the
"leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the Pr
es?
I'm sure that somebody has a quick fix for how to best deal with this
problem. Please understand, while preparing your response to my call
for help, that my technical skill are limited at best.
Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated.
Frog
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Frog wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
On 11/10/2017 12:28 PM, Frog wrote:
I have accessed a web cam located on the Ocean City, MD boardwalk for
years and for unknown reasons it now does not open.
The web address for this web cam is:
http://www.oceangallery.com/
I do see a black
Keith N. McKenna wrote:
On 11/10/2017 3:28 PM, Frog wrote:
I have accessed a web cam located on the Ocean City, MD boardwalk for
years and for unknown reasons it now does not open.
The web address for this web cam is:
http://www.oceangallery.com/
I do see a black rectangle where I believe
David E. Ross wrote:
On 11/10/2017 12:28 PM, Frog wrote:
I have accessed a web cam located on the Ocean City, MD boardwalk for
years and for unknown reasons it now does not open.
The web address for this web cam is:
http://www.oceangallery.com/
I do see a black rectangle where I believe
the following message displaced in it:
can't assign to properties of (new Boolean(true)):
not an object
This message does not communicate with me...Help!
Windows 10
Frog
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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
In the past, AOL required that users install AOL's own E-mail
application because AOL's servers did not comply with either IMAP or
POP3/SMTP. This might no longer be the case.
Correct, they don't.
I am not familiar with IMAP setups. If you are
David E. Ross wrote:
On 10/15/2017 2:12 PM, Frog wrote:
This thing of moving from Verizon to AOL is about to drive me completely
crazy. I received the following message from AOL and I have no idea how
to make the Sea Monkey and Thunderbird changes that they want me to
make. Here is a quote
use Sea Monkey for my mail...and have times I have used Thunderbird
for my mail at times in order to learn this software. What specifically
do I need to do to make the changes they are requesting?
Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated.
Frog
rateful for any help or suggestions sent my way for
solving this problem.
Sony Laptop Computer
Windows XP
Frog
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WaltS48 wrote:
On 3/30/17 4:43 PM, Frog wrote:
I am using SeaMonkey and Windows 10 on my desktop computer. I
received a message from Verizon telling me that they will no longer
provide verizon.net email service after April 14, 2017. I was then
given two options to choose from as follows:
1
m in an attempt to make the transition...with no luck.
Frog
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WaltS48 wrote:
On 3/15/17 8:16 PM, Frog wrote:
I made the move from Windows 7 to Windows 10 some time ago. I have
not been unable (since that move) to stop Windows Edge from acting
like it is my default...it opens everything I click on in SeaMonkey.
Mow that Verizon and AOL are in the throws
I made the move from Windows 7 to Windows 10 some time ago. I have not
been unable (since that move) to stop Windows Edge from acting like it
is my default...it opens everything I click on in SeaMonkey. Mow that
Verizon and AOL are in the throws of officially becoming one, I am now
told
I presently have two search engines (Google and DuckDuckGo)listed under
Preference - Internet Search. Is there some method for both (or more
than one) search engine to appear when "Search" is clicked on the
browser window?
Windows 10 - SeaMonkey
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Frog wrote:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
When message sending fails, do you get an error message? If so, exactly
what is it, and if you can tell, who's it from? Or does the process just
stall and fail to complete?
Here is what happens when I click send and wait some
Paul,
It is always good to have your help with another of my problems. I have
included my comments in your message below.
Frog
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Frog wrote:
I am not able to send e-mail messages for some reason (Windows 7). This
problem started yesterday at noon and continues
Frog wrote:
I am not able to send e-mail messages for some reason (Windows 7). This
problem started yesterday at noon and continues at this time. All other
internet actions are normal. I called my ISP for help and I thought the
problem was resolved---he installed a temporary browser on my
fix-it skills tells me that my problem may be located at my
ISP. What should or can I do to fix this send message problem?
Frog
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er attempt to send my message and it also failed. I
turned off my virus scan software (Webroot) before sending the message
and got the same results as before.
Frog
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