Re: [biofuel] honda-insight] EPA Alt. Fuel Study

2001-03-04 Thread Troy Heagy
>From: Ed Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >the short trips, and an SRO or biodiesel fueled APU to charge the EV >nightly, hook onto the EV to make it a series hybrid for longer trips, and >use the APU to provide hot water heat, domestic hot water, and electricity >to your home the rest of the time (u

Re: [biofuel] Re: Seattle experiments with green fuel

2001-03-04 Thread Ed Beggs
No. > From: "Troy Heagy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:26:37 -0500 > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Seattle experiments with green fuel > > > > >> From: Ed Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Yes

Re: [biofuel] Re: Seattle experiments with green fuel

2001-03-04 Thread steve spence
check your pollution levels besides sulphur. dinodiesel is not rated for use in mines, biodiesel is. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10

[biofuel] EPA Alt. Fuel Study

2001-03-04 Thread Troy Heagy
>From: Ed Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Bingo!...And fuel it with biodiesel.. Maybe. The EPA study (below) shows that bio-gas aka ethanol uses MORE energy during production than just normal gas. Doesn't bio-diesel have the same flaw? Troy > > "Use of ethanol, methanol, CNG (natural gas), F

Re: [biofuel] Re: Seattle experiments with green fuel

2001-03-04 Thread Troy Heagy
>From: Ed Beggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Yes they are available, but cost would come down with more of them being >built and used, more retrofit market would develop, and biodiesel can play >a >role in that, as well as the new lower sulphur diesel that is being >mandated >for North America, to al

Re: [biofuel] Re. FAQ

2001-03-04 Thread Ed Beggs
Steve - We all want a Firewire or USB connection that uploads it all into a pair of electrodes and directly into our brains...can you and Keith have that facility added to your websites and send the hardware over on Fedex, I need it for Tuesday. Hope it's not too much trouble. Thanks! ;-) Ed

Re: [biofuel] honda-insight] EPA Alt. Fuel Study

2001-03-04 Thread steve spence
it's not so much due to the production costs, as to the reduced energy value of those fuels. But ethanol does allow some nice tricks like high compression engines, which we have not seen in 30 years. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm

Re: [biofuel] Re. FAQ

2001-03-04 Thread steve spence
What Keith was saying is that webconx and journeytoforever are gigantic FAQ's. There doesn't seem to be a need for another. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://ww

Re: [biofuel] honda-insight] EPA Alt. Fuel Study

2001-03-04 Thread Ed Beggs
I am sure somebody will notice Troy included pure electric in his list and will wonder why I included it for fueling on SRO or biodiesel...here's an answer...you have to charge it somehow, so use a genset on SRO or biodiesel. If you have the location to allow it, you could have an EV for the sh

Re: [biofuel] honda-insight] EPA Alt. Fuel Study

2001-03-04 Thread Ed Beggs
Bingo!...And fuel it with biodiesel, which NREL life cycle analysis determined to be better than petrodiesel in this regard...or SRO , which is cheaper than biodiesel, convenient in tis own way (no chemical conversion of fuel every time out), and does not require the methanol (energy to produce/us

Re: [biofuel] Re: Seattle experiments with green fuel

2001-03-04 Thread Ed Beggs
Yes they are available, but cost would come down with more of them being built and used, more retrofit market would develop, and biodiesel can play a role in that, as well as the new lower sulphur diesel that is being mandated for North America, to allow the use of those devices over the coming ye

[biofuel] honda-insight] EPA Alt. Fuel Study

2001-03-04 Thread troyheagy
"Use of ethanol, methanol, CNG (natural gas), FRFG2, or CARFG2 in conventional SI engines causes INCREASES in total energy use. The increases associated with M85 and E85 are above 15% and 20%, respectively. The increases are caused primarily by the signifigant amount of energy consumed duri

[biofuel] Re: Seattle experiments with green fuel

2001-03-04 Thread troyheagy
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "NBT - E. Beggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a great fuel on its own - and also a great technology enabler for the > use of catalytic converters to take care of NOx (no sulphur=no catalyst > poisoning) and particulate traps (less PM, so longer between servicing

Re: [biofuel] Warming Fossil Diesel

2001-03-04 Thread malcolm.scott
What are they selling the methanol for? I mean what do the other customers do with it? Malcolm - Original Message - From: "Aidan Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Warming Fossil Diesel > Ed. > > Wal-Mart only has it in 4L j

[biofuel] Re. FAQ

2001-03-04 Thread Tony Cahill
Okay the FAQ appears a dead issue, I understand the enormity of it Keith. But I do believe that somewhere, sometime, someone must collate the FACTS and make them available or there will not be the progress we all desire. Instead newcomers are going to be reviewing information that is a. Factua

[biofuel] warming

2001-03-04 Thread stephen lakios
This orb has been going through cycles for billions of years,and most likely will continue to do so.stephen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You

[biofuel] chickens

2001-03-04 Thread stephen lakios
I kept typing boiler when it should have been broiler. Maybe gaw can use old newspaper instead of sawdust.Put it through a shedder or wood chipper. Or 50% paper-50%sawdust. We did not know of digesters when we had the farm,the chicken manure would sit in piles for three to four months and we wo

[biofuel] [new_distillers] New Distillers FAQ

2001-03-04 Thread Tony & Elle Ackland
New Distillers FAQ ** "NEW DISTILLERS" Frequently Asked Questions (Sept'00) Posted near the 1st of each month, to the NEW_DISTILLERS newsgroup at www.egroups.com Please email any additions, corrections, clarifications required, etc

Re: [biofuel] Warming Fossil Diesel

2001-03-04 Thread Aidan Wilkins
Ed. Wal-Mart only has it in 4L jugs, but it is cheaper like that for me than going to a chemical supplier and buying a 20L pail. I will buy drums as soon as I find a place to store the drum. :) I just made my first batch of Bio-diesel (only 500Ml). I hope it works out. Aidan

Re: [biofuel] Warming Fossil Diesel

2001-03-04 Thread Ed Beggs
Of course, if you live in someplace like Edmonton, plugs are standard issue for all apartments and workplaces! Wal-Mart..might have known. In 45 Gal drums or just smaller? Ed > From: "Aidan Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:48:02 -0500

[biofuel] Re: biodiesel processors, and methanol recovery.

2001-03-04 Thread simon_wells
Dear All Simon Wells's site has now changed to www.veggiepower.org.uk www.veggiepower.org.uk now includes an online bookshop mainly for biofuels. If there are other titles I should try to include please let me know Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsu

Re: [biofuel] global warming

2001-03-04 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
Warren - I think that the body of evidence is there, if absolute proof is not, or it would not have progressed this far. Whether one agrees with global warming theory or not, you have to admit that the issue has convinced enough scientists and policymakers, who believe it is a real and serious

Re: [biofuel] global warming

2001-03-04 Thread Warren Rekow
It is delightful that folks on this list are able to discuss a wide spectrum of subjects in a thoughtful and informed manner with so little rancor. Clearly there are groups of intelligent people who are concerned about global warming. Plausible scenarios have been published to show the possib

Re: [biofuel] Warming Fossil Diesel

2001-03-04 Thread Aidan Wilkins
Ed. Thank you for the tip with plugging in the vehicle. As soon as I am out of an apartment and can plug in my vehicle in the winter it will be the first thing I do. As well my parents always plugged in the vehicle at home, but were unable to plug them in at work and when shopping etc..

[biofuel] Re: Warming Fossil Diesel

2001-03-04 Thread gjyohn
I read in a DieselTherm advertisement that the best temp for diesel is 160F/70C. They showed pictures of the fuel being sprayed through the fuel injectors as prove. Also, beyond that temperature efficiency goes down. I'll tell you how my 12 volt canning jar fuel preheater works as soon as my

Re: [biofuel] Seattle experiments with green fuel

2001-03-04 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
Keith - I don't think it was deliberately misleading, but as you say, not well stitched together, which the sense that biodiesel was going to play a big part in helping out with the NOx issue. I agree that the people in Seattle that put this program in place are unlikely to be of the belief that

Re: [biofuel] Seattle experiments with green fuel

2001-03-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ed Okay. :-) >Keith: > >Busy, yes..I mentioned it to indicate my state of mind by late last night, >and inability to provide paragraphs of critique - to explain a terse >response on my part. Also explains my error on the last one, you are right >it does say a reduction in PM and reduction i

Re: [biofuel] Warming Fossil Diesel

2001-03-04 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
Aidan It's ok to heat it. In fact, a Japanese (Hokkaido U. / Komatsu company) study I saw found that 90C was the optimum temp for petrodiesel combustion for lowest specific energy consumption and visible smoke emissions. You will be unlikely to reach fuel temp of more than 60-80C heating it with

Re: [biofuel] Biofuel FAQ

2001-03-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Scott >I'd like to submit a vote for the FAQ and I have read the entire archive. You mean you're volunteering to do all the work, get it checked, edited and so on? :-) I'm sure not going to do it - why would I want to make our biofuels pages all over again? Which is what it would amount to

Re: [biofuel] Biofuel FAQ

2001-03-04 Thread Scott & Cathy
I'd like to submit a vote for the FAQ and I have read the entire archive. Scott Nikolai - Original Message - From: "stephen williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:10 AM Subject: [biofuel] Biofuel FAQ > Hi List, > > As a relative newcomer to the list, I find