Re: [biofuel] bubblewash murkyness

2001-05-30 Thread Biofuels
How do you determine your pH accuracy to hundredths? If so, looks OK to me Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is su

Re: [biofuel] RE: fuel line magnets = poo poo

2001-05-30 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: [biofuel] READ THIS!!! - was RE: fuel line magnets = poo poo ~~~THANK YOU KEITH!!! This is such a stupid topic. All I hear are.. put the magnets here or >there.. yo

Re: [biofuel] bubblewash murkyness

2001-05-30 Thread Ian
Amb temp 10oC ph 6.79 will warm again this evening thanks all Ian Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject t

Re: [biofuel] bubblewash murkyness

2001-05-30 Thread Biofuels
No real need to boil after washing - if you want, take it up to 80 deg C and most water will drop out. Murkiness is probably tallow esters, if temperature is below 8 deg C and pH is 7. Warm slightly, when it will disappear. Allow tallows to settle for a week - draw off from top and use 100% - mix

Re: [biofuel] bubblewash murkyness

2001-05-30 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
Was the PH down after washing? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[biofuel] bubblewash murkyness

2001-05-30 Thread Ian
Hi All Heres a new one. After bubble washing a batch, I left it overnight after bubbling. In the morning the oil was Gin clear. I drained the water off then took the oil to 100oC for about half hour to remove any traces of water. I left it to cool, now its cloudy. Any ideas? Ian Biofuel at Journ

Re: [biofuel] Re: Aleks' 'foolproof method' methanol reclaim

2001-05-30 Thread Ian
Thanks Aleks. Ian - Original Message - From: Aleksander To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 5:54 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Aleks' 'foolproof method' methanol reclaim > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian, > > a friend and I have tried

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 472

2001-05-30 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
Now you have made me think!! Naturally I don't mean to support the global free trade push, rather I support regulation at the national level, but it is the mechanism of that regulation I am struggling to identify. I like your point about real capitalism as opposed to the corporate way. Unfortunate

Re: [biofuel] Re: Bio Quality Test?

2001-05-30 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
I read a paper from a link here that suggested that the degree of initial homogenisation of alcohol, catalyst and oil was a(the?) limiting factor in yield, or are we talking separation failure here? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsub

Re: [biofuel] Re: Aleks' 'foolproof method' methanol reclaim

2001-05-30 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
Now that is worth knowing!! Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 472

2001-05-30 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
So you agree that developed countries should be growing their own food at home? Again reductions in productivity in developed countries impact on under developed countries because the importers can pay more than the locals for the available food. The income from exports is less evenly distributed

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 472- a wealth tax

2001-05-30 Thread Keith Addison
>Hi David et al, >It is not about distribution patterns of food, it is about distribution >patterns of money. In the absence of a proven substitute for a free market >economy that can maintain efficient production we have limited options. What we have now is not a "free" market economy, and the c

[biofuel] Re: Bio Quality Test?

2001-05-30 Thread Aleksander <kac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Biofuels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Optimum rpm is 700, but it is not critical > Fault lies elsewhere - temperature, time mixing, etc. Um, water in oil, water in acid, water in lye, carbonated lye, incorrect measuring, sloppy weighing ? There is a troubleshooting ch

[biofuel] Re: Aleks' 'foolproof method' methanol reclaim

2001-05-30 Thread Aleksander <kac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ian, a friend and I have tried it (boil off). It's no use, takes a lot of energy since the mass to heat up is tremenduous and real gain is very thin. At methanol BP we got zip. Not a drop. 10 deg C higher temperature gave a few drops.

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 472

2001-05-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ken One point you're missing here is that it's not the developed countries that feed the rest of the world. The developed countries are the big food importers. From a previous post in this thread: "By the way, all the developed countries, and especially the US, are net food importers from

RE: [biofuel] Coco-diesel - Engine repair claims turned down

2001-05-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hanns and Ken It's now available in the Files section at the new bio-oils group. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bio-oil/files/BIOFUELpaper4.doc I think you'll have to join the group though. [EMAIL PROTECTED] So you should be getting some other feedback soon Hanns. Best Keith Addison Journey to

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 472- a wealth tax

2001-05-30 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
Hi David et al, It is not about distribution patterns of food, it is about distribution patterns of money. In the absence of a proven substitute for a free market economy that can maintain efficient production we have limited options. For example many third world economies gain dollars by selling

RE: [biofuel] Coco-diesel - Engine repair claims turned down

2001-05-30 Thread monteoro
Dear Hanns, I am interested in coconut oil as a base for bio diesel. Pls. send me a copy of the report you mentioned. Thanks and Best Regards Ken Chua At 05:29 PM 5/29/01 +1000, you wrote: >High quality coconut oil has been tested at the University of Wollongong >(Australia) in recent years

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 472

2001-05-30 Thread monteoro
I agree with Harmon. There should be distributed food production and not a centralized production of food for the world. Right now WTO is almost a reality. Excess food from the US(which usually is destroyed rather than sold to maintain the price) can be sold elsewhere at a fraction of the cost

Re: [biofuels-biz] Greetings

2001-05-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Cordain >Also since I'm at it if your looking for free/confidential counseling to >starting your business check out www.score.org and www.sba.gov. These are >both government programs or agencies so I didnt get payed to say that. Why not put those links up in the Bookmarks section? That way

[biofuels-biz] Greetings

2001-05-30 Thread doctor who
Greetings my name is Cordain Lucas I am also on Biofuels and BFIC. I joined this list because I am looking for more information on getting "funding, licensing, trading requirements, safety requirements, insurance, distribution and marketing, and so on and on, nor about the special requirement

[biofuel] Fwd: Protest backward energy policy, June 21...

2001-05-30 Thread doctor who
*clears throat* All politics aside I am forwarding this message because I know some folks have an interest in energy efficiency, conservation and alternative fuels! ;^) I also know some folks on this list happen to have voted for the person in the office of the president. I am not posting this

Re: [biofuel] Bio Quality Test?

2001-05-30 Thread Biofuels
Optimum rpm is 700, but it is not critical Fault lies elsewhere - temperature, time mixing, etc. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use

Re: [biofuels-biz] greetings

2001-05-30 Thread Pedro M.
Better than equipment, for Spain it«s the design. You could sell the design of a biodiesel factory.   All the best. Elabore caseramente biodiesel para su actual motor de gasoil petrol’feroLa soluci—n a sus problemas energŽticos.   http://sitio.de/energiahttp://journeytoforever.org/energia

[biofuels-biz] greetings

2001-05-30 Thread yubbayubbadonuts
Thanks for setting up this group. I hope to go commercial at some point. Probably making equipment for processing rather than bio diesel production. Still at the prototype stage at the moment. bob golding (UK) Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at

[biofuels-biz] Re: Greetings

2001-05-30 Thread mauro_knudsen
Hello, CONGRATULATIONS!!! This kind of Biofuel Forum what was I looking for. Is very important to separate the forums occuped in topic like "do it yourself" (home made biodiesel) and the forum for large scale production with a macroeconomic point of view. I hope a very interesting "brain storm

Re: [biofuel] Bio Quality Test?

2001-05-30 Thread KDe3198534
Hi James, I recently processed 11 litres of WVO using the foolproof two stage process and failed. I might have been using a too high of an rpm motor. I would like to hear your procedure. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe"

[biofuel] READ THIS!!! - was RE: fuel line magnets = poo poo

2001-05-30 Thread Keith Addison
>This is such a stupid topic. All I hear are.. put the magnets here or >there.. you have to adjust them. Actually, David, what you should have heard more recently is two messages from the list owner - me - saying please can it. The first one, "Ruling - Re: [biofuel] of magnets and testing", ex

[biofuels-biz] Greetings

2001-05-30 Thread Keith Addison
I've started this group following a discussion with Steve Spence of Webconx, our partner site at Journey to Forever. We both keep getting inquiries from people wanting to start a biofuels business. We send them to each other's sites and to the Biofuels list. There they'll find good information

[biofuel] New group for biofuels businesses

2001-05-30 Thread Keith Addison
I've started a new group at Yahoo following a discussion with Steve Spence of Webconx, our partner site at Journey to Forever. We both keep getting inquiries from people wanting to start a biofuels business. We send them to each other's sites and here, where they'll find good information, reso

RE: [biofuel] I want to brew my first batch of biodiesel

2001-05-30 Thread Mike Brownstone
eric, Do yourself a favour and start with a small amount like one liter in a clear bottle. It's really much easier like this. You can find methanol and lye (NaOH) at any chemical supply store. Mike -Original Message- From: eric almanzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 472

2001-05-30 Thread Harmon Seaver
"Crabb, David" wrote: > pardon my logic... but if there "currently is enough food around.. and the > hungry only go hungry because > of distribution issues"... > Actually what is happening is even more insidious -- just one quick example: U.S. farmers overproduce, say, corn. So corn is shi

[biofuel] RE: fuel line magnets = poo poo

2001-05-30 Thread Crabb, David
- Original Message - >> From: steve spence >>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 11:48 PM >>Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: magnets in fuel line. >> >> >>extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence. notice how they get >>all upset when y

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 472

2001-05-30 Thread Crabb, David
>> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:34:52 +0900 >> From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: More on Jerusalem artichokes >> >> Hi Harry >> >> >Thanks for those references Keith, they will be very useful. >> >> You're most welcome, I'm glad you can use them. >> >>

Re: [biofuel] please unsuscribe me

2001-05-30 Thread aurcuyomu
Please unsuscribe me from this group thank you Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.c

Re: [biofuel] WVO storage

2001-05-30 Thread Biofuels
How long is a piece of string? A lot depends on the amount of rubbish in the oil and the temperature. As regards biodiesel - why not use it? Biocides can help, but a couple of months at cool 18 deg C temperature should do no harm Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel

[biofuel] Unsubcribe

2001-05-30 Thread Dennis Bundy
Please take my name off the biofuel registry. Thank you, Dennis Bundy _ Talk Stocks with Smart Investors -- http://www.ragingbull.com Click Below for Brokerage Specials for Raging Bull Users http://www.ragingbull.com/tradingcente

[biofuel] Aleks' 'foolproof method' methanol reclaim

2001-05-30 Thread ian
Hi all. Could anyone tell me if its feesable to reclaim methanol at the last 2 stages of the foolproof method? Or should the glycerine from both stages be dumped in to the reactor and the meth reclaimed from there. Just seems like more work if it has to be got back after the cycles complete. Thank

[biofuel] WVO storage

2001-05-30 Thread Bud & Lois Pitts
Can anyone tell me how long WVO will store and still be usable for biodiesel and what would be the best storage conditions? Also how long will BD store before it becomes contaminate with organisms as petro diesel does? Thanks It's the PITTS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]