RE: [biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport

2001-07-15 Thread Pat McCotter
When we speak of the "model American" we are actually talking about either the design team at a consumer manufaturer or their Madison Avenue advertiser. These folks need to target a specific demographic so they need this model. There's really nothing nefarious about it. Unless of course the d

Re: [biofuel]Drum Pump/WCS oil process problems

2001-07-15 Thread Paul Gobert
- Original Message - From: "Edward Beggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] (OT)Bits Falling Off / Chemical dispensing > Paul and all - > > We have been trying a plastic, hand-operated drum pump the last couple of > weeks that works well

RE: [biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport

2001-07-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Pat >Keith, >Your preaching to the choir here. Well, not preaching at all really. Genuinely curious as to whether anyone thinks the "model American" actually exists as a flesh-and-blood critter. I mean scratch them and they're still "model Americans" underneath, inside. I'd hazard that

Re: [biofuels-biz] Australian Suppliers

2001-07-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Steve When you're ready, please send me the details and I'll add it all to the Biofuels supplies page at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html That it's Oz-only is no problem, I'm happy to regionalise it. By the way, it might interest you to know that Oz is the

[biofuels-biz] Australian Suppliers

2001-07-15 Thread Wooly .
Hi Keith, Steve and all Thanks for the jolt; the only reason I'd been quiet was I'm busy doing it! Australian Biodiesel producers (or those planning to be) should email me off list (to link below please) if they; a) are in search of NaOH / KOH, and Ethanol / Methanol bulk supplies, or b) believe

Re: [biofuel] (OT)Bits Falling Off / Chemical dispensing

2001-07-15 Thread Edward Beggs
Paul and all - We have been trying a plastic, hand-operated drum pump the last couple of weeks that works well for two things: - it easily pumps viscous vegetable oil - it comes with an attachment and measuring bottle that allows the bottle to be fastened directly to the pump via a twist loc

Re: [biofuel] (OT)Bits Falling Off

2001-07-15 Thread Paul Gobert
- Original Message - From: "Pat McCotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 8:40 AM > (BTW, a year-and-a-half ago I had aneurysm surgery at the base of my brain. > I lost an inner ear in the process and still have the hole in my skull > behind the ear (skin and hair gro

RE: [biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport

2001-07-15 Thread Pat McCotter
Keith, Your preaching to the choir here. I know exactly where you're coming from. Advertising is not my forte, but I found my own "suit" to wear a while back and skew pollsters numbers when questioned. I had tried to politely tell a couple of them that they would be wasting their time with me,

[biofuel] Was : Social effects Re:Rebel

2001-07-15 Thread david e cruse
Hi Kirk and Everyone, That`s what is so great about being from the "South" (Georgia) ! Everyone from the "South" is labeled from birth as a "Rebel" and as such we get to be as crazy and 'non-model American' as we like ! This is very convenient when someone expects you to go along with the rest of

Re: [biofuel] Pollution-free car

2001-07-15 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Marc and All, > > - Original Message - > From: "F. Marc de Piolenc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > 1. You'd be darned lucky to actually store 80% of > the generated juice in > > a battery - or rather, you might store 80%, but > you won't get that much > > back and still have reasonabl

RE: [biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport

2001-07-15 Thread kirk
We succumb to one degree or another but the unrealistic expectations of many people are attributable to the lifestyle portrayed on TV. I truly believe that. Kirk -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 12:09 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroup

RE: [biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport

2001-07-15 Thread kirk
Model Americans need remodeling. :) Kirk -Original Message- From: Pat McCotter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 10:54 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport "The model American" is the phrase used, Kirk. I don't

Re: [biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport

2001-07-15 Thread Keith Addison
>Thank you, Keith. An excellent link. > >This gets to the entire for those looking: >http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ira/illich/texts/energy_and_equity/ > >Pat McCotter You're welcome Pat. Voice from the past, eh? Takes me back to the 70s. Wasn't it Illich who invented the World Wide Web? Or rather

RE: [biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport

2001-07-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Pat >"The model American" is the phrase used, Kirk. I don't buy vehicles just to >buy vehicles either. I keep the one I have in good running condition until I >no longer can, then I get another. I am not a "model American." > >Auto manufacturers build for "model Americans." >City planning is f

RE: [biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport

2001-07-15 Thread Pat McCotter
"The model American" is the phrase used, Kirk. I don't buy vehicles just to buy vehicles either. I keep the one I have in good running condition until I no longer can, then I get another. I am not a "model American." Auto manufacturers build for "model Americans." City planning is for "model Am

RE: [biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport

2001-07-15 Thread kirk
I drive 100 miles(roundtrip) once or twice a month to go grocery shopping. My auto is 25 years old. People that trade them in every 3 years are on the hamster wheel. I'm not. Kirk -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 9:48 AM To: b

RE: [biofuel] Pollution-free car

2001-07-15 Thread kirk
I don't think autos even run at c10. They load like crazy with resultant loss. c/2 if range done in 1 hour right? Kirk -Original Message- From: steve spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 8:25 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Pollution-free c

Re: [biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport

2001-07-15 Thread Pat McCotter
Thank you, Keith. An excellent link. This gets to the entire for those looking: http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ira/illich/texts/energy_and_equity/ Pat McCotter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Biofu

[biofuel] Social effects of motorized transport

2001-07-15 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ira/illich/facts/social_effects.html Social effects of motorized transport Ivan Illich gives a set of very interesting facts and figures when he discusses his concept of convivial transport: * The United States puts between 25 and 45 per cent of its total energy (d

Re: [biofuel] The really soft proof of maybe something, kind of, or not..

2001-07-15 Thread Harmon Seaver
The origin of maize was way down in mesoamerica, not New Mexico. That's been very well studied. Also, what is now desert in New Mexico was arable farmland back 2-3 thousand years ago, so finding maize there is no big deal, the Anasazi and other ancient peoples farmed there before a major per