[biofuel] OT: calculating energy requirements for Solar Panel installations.

2003-04-06 Thread paul van den bergen
Hi all, somewhat OT for biofuels, but alt. energy-ish, so I figured people here would know where to start... I am considering putting in a tlephone and data relay point on a remote property, where little power is available... I want to calculate both how much battery storage and how much sola

Re: [biofuel] Letter from Lebanon: Arabs See a Colonizer Army,Not 'Liberation'

2003-04-06 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: > > The American-British army in Iraq is dangerously close to joining an > ignominious list of modern occupation armies that generated fierce > resistance from the natives, sought unsuccessfully to stay in place > by the force of their superior firepower, and ultimate

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
>His "rhetoric" suggests no such thing. Calling it rhetoric, and coming to >the conclusion that it suggests anything however, clearly explains the bias >of the writer of the article. Uh-huh. I guess that neatly explains away the bias of his subject. >Even calling it an unprovoked war, is clearly

Re: [biofuel] Language

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
>Guys, > >Could you please keep the use of profanities down to a minimum. My >companies email virus filter blocks also based on "inappropriate >content", and this means that I get to lose the whole days digest of >emails just because some idiot can't express himself clearly enough >without sw

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....or not!

2003-04-06 Thread paul van den bergen
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 03:57 pm, Kris Book wrote: > Does that mean also, that you can't kill in the name of > peace? can't shan't won't gotta remember that (usually) war represents a failure of diplomacy (not an extension of diplomacy). If the USA really is the most powerful nation in the world,

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....or not!

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
paul van den bergen wrote: >On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 03:57 pm, Kris Book wrote: > > Does that mean also, that you can't kill in the name of > > peace? > >can't shan't won't > >gotta remember that (usually) war represents a failure of diplomacy (not an >extension of diplomacy). > >If the USA really is t

Re: [biofuel] Journalist's evidence that U.S. bombed market ignored by U.S. press

2003-04-06 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 07:45 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Journalist's evidence that U.S. bombed market ignored by U.S. press > >I don't know how it is being ignored by U.S. press, I have seen many stories > >about it,

To Kill vs murder Was:: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread csakima
No offense to anyone but I believe the original meaning that was "intended" (to use "modern" English "understanding" of words) was: "Thou shalt not spill innocent blood". Or something to that effect. That's why "murder" was considered "wrong". And yet why "self-defense" (shooting a rap

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread Appal Energy
Okay Steve, How about stepping out from behind your unending and world renowned one liners and "establish," at least in your mind and in a public manner, how it's not an "unprovoked" war, rather than just saying so and expecting others to just quietly nod in agreement as if all opiate addicts? H

Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors

2003-04-06 Thread Craig Pech
Check www.usplastics.com . Lima, Ohio. Craig - Original Message - From: "Mark Ehle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors > Does anybody know where www.biodieselgear.com gets their plastic tanks? They > look perf

[biofuel] Language

2003-04-06 Thread Ackland, Tony (CALNZAS)
Guys, Could you please keep the use of profanities down to a minimum. My companies email virus filter blocks also based on "inappropriate content", and this means that I get to lose the whole days digest of emails just because some idiot can't express himself clearly enough without swearing.

[biofuel] (Fwd) biodiesel for public transportation vs. CNG

2003-04-06 Thread Darryl McMahon
Thought this might be of interest (forwarded from Alternate Energy list). Darryl McMahon --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 14:28:45 -0500 (EST) From: Michael S Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Su

[biofuels-biz] Re: MIT study skeptical about fuel cell vehicles

2003-04-06 Thread Darryl McMahon
groundhogsteve wrote: > I agree that pure EV's are more efficient, but as I see it they have > two problems: Range and timing. > The range issue is one of the great EV myths. Essentially, you can go as far on a charge as you want to spend. For example, off-the-shelf, NiMH batteri

Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors

2003-04-06 Thread Steve Spence
http://ww2.green-trust.org:8383/making_biodiesel.htm works for small batches (a blenderful) or large batches (30 gallon drum fulls). Just a matter of proportions. I suggest you do both. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter & Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technolog

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread Steve Spence
His "rhetoric" suggests no such thing. Calling it rhetoric, and coming to the conclusion that it suggests anything however, clearly explains the bias of the writer of the article. Even calling it an unprovoked war, is clearly a manufactured falsehood. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Ener

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
>Face it Greg, some folks minds are made up, so don't confuse them with the >facts. It's easier for them to hang on to a pet theory, especially when it's >got a hint of conspiracy, then face the unknown, or admit that someone they >dislike might be right. > >Keep preaching though. The choir is beh

Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors

2003-04-06 Thread wintersfam5
Greetings everyone-I bought an '84 blazer,it is an old army deisel 4x4.We are trying to decide if it is better to convert the oil or the truck.I live on an island so I am a little selucded.Does any one have a simple method of converting the oil in 5 gallon batches? Thank

Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors

2003-04-06 Thread Mark Ehle
Thanks, Todd - these links will help alot. Mark >From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >To: >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors >Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 11:43:52 -0400 > >http://www.kefco.com/indcone.html > >http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/pr

[biofuel] House Pushes Supply Side Energy From Public Lands

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://ens-news.com/ens/apr2003/2003-04-03-10.asp House Pushes Supply Side Energy From Public Lands By J.R. Pegg WASHINGTON, DC, April 3, 2003 (ENS) - The House Resources Committee passed a bill Wednesday that broadens financial incentives for natural gas, oil and coal producers and opens the

[biofuels-biz] House Pushes Supply Side Energy From Public Lands

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://ens-news.com/ens/apr2003/2003-04-03-10.asp House Pushes Supply Side Energy From Public Lands By J.R. Pegg WASHINGTON, DC, April 3, 2003 (ENS) - The House Resources Committee passed a bill Wednesday that broadens financial incentives for natural gas, oil and coal producers and opens the

[biofuels-biz] Illinois Approves $1 Billion Clean Coal Power Plant

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://ens-news.com/ens/apr2003/2003-04-04-05.asp Illinois Approves $1 Billion Clean Coal Power Plant SPRINGFIELD, Illinois, April 4, 2003 (ENS) - Illinois will be burning more of its locally mined high sulfur coal, but burning it more cleanly than in the past under a statewide coal revival pr

[biofuel] Illinois Approves $1 Billion Clean Coal Power Plant

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://ens-news.com/ens/apr2003/2003-04-04-05.asp Illinois Approves $1 Billion Clean Coal Power Plant SPRINGFIELD, Illinois, April 4, 2003 (ENS) - Illinois will be burning more of its locally mined high sulfur coal, but burning it more cleanly than in the past under a statewide coal revival pr

[biofuel] Official Story Vs. Eyewitness Account: Najaf killings

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
FAIR-L Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting Media analysis, critiques and activism MEDIA ADVISORY: Official Story Vs. Eyewitness Account: On Najaf killings, some outlets seem to prefer the sanitized version April 4, 2003 A recent Washington Post article describi

[biofuel] Letter from Lebanon: Arabs See a Colonizer Army, Not 'Liberation'

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15544 Letter from Lebanon: Arabs See a Colonizer Army, Not 'Liberation' By Rami Khouri, Pacific News Service April 3, 2003 BEIRUT, Lebanon - The Iraqi man who detonated a car bomb that killed himself and four American soldiers seems to have ushered in

[biofuel] The Thick Fog of War on American Television

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15554 SOLOMON: The Thick Fog of War on American Television By Norman Solomon, AlterNet April 3, 2003 Minutes after the dawn spread daylight across the Iraqi desert, "embedded" CNN correspondent Walter Rodgers was on the air with a live report. Anothe

[biofuel] Cheney, Halliburton and the Spoils of War

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.corpwatch.org/issues/PID.jsp?articleid=6288 CorpWatch.org Cheney, Halliburton and the Spoils of War By Lee Drutman and Charlie Cray Citizen Works http://www.citizenworks.org/index.php April 4, 2003 When Defense Policy Board chairman Richard Perle revealed that he was getting $725,0

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread Appal Energy
Still polishing that blind spot to a mirror finish Steve? Just a bit difficult to take seriously someone who walks in swinging blindly, all the while denying that the appendages flailing away have anything to do with him (or her, should the case ever be) . Enquiring minds still want to know how

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread Appal Energy
Well, the responses keep getting simpler and simpler with you Greg. It's about time to boil it all down to my best Valley Girl imitation; "Like...huh?" If you expect people to infer what you want to imply, you have to write it first, not issue an interpretation three posts later that only you c

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread Kris Book
Greg, I have no desire to enter this thread, I find it bordering on the ludicrous side of the scale but, your continued defense of an untenable position causes me to add my two cents worth. I know that because you and I have had similar problems on another list, that you'll probably decide that I

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread Steve Spence
Face it Greg, some folks minds are made up, so don't confuse them with the facts. It's easier for them to hang on to a pet theory, especially when it's got a hint of conspiracy, then face the unknown, or admit that someone they dislike might be right. Keep preaching though. The choir is behind yo

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 23:39 Subject: Re: [biofuel] This is cute > Now Greg, > > There you go trying to twist what you actually said to make yourself look > all saintly again. > > > Again you talking your opi

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 07:34 Subject: Re: [biofuel] This is cute > >I don't type that fast, directly from a copy of the bible and my kids were > >starting to act up when I was in the middle of typing the messa

Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors

2003-04-06 Thread Appal Energy
http://www.kefco.com/indcone.html http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&catego ry%5Fname=&product%5Fid=Mix+And+Fill+Tanks Kefco is generally a better value for the dollar. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Mark Ehle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Se

Re: [biofuel] Planting 10% for the animals..

2003-04-06 Thread Appal Energy
Thank you for the Chuckle :-) - Original Message - From: "Kim & Garth Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Planting 10% for the animals.. > Mine is blue heeler/coyote cross. She helps me move the animals into pens, > but if y

Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors

2003-04-06 Thread Mark Ehle
Does anybody know where www.biodieselgear.com gets their plastic tanks? They look perfect for the job, but I was not able to find these tanks on the net. Even though their processors look like fine products, I would rather build my own. Thanks - Mark Ehle Dowling, MI >From: Neoteric Bio

Re: [biofuel] Planting 10% for the animals..

2003-04-06 Thread Kim & Garth Travis
Mine is blue heeler/coyote cross. She helps me move the animals into pens, but if you don't have any animals to herd, she will herd you. Bright Blessings, Kim At 11:35 AM 4/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Any recommedations on the domesticated half? > >Todd Swearingen > >- Original Message -

Re: [biofuel] Journalist's evidence that U.S. bombed market ignored by U.S. press

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
>I don't know how it is being ignored by U.S. press, I have seen many stories >about it, since it happened, including the fact that it might have been a >HARM (Homing Anti-Radar Missile). Maybe you'd like to provide some references? They do, so should you. Or haven't you got the time right now?

Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors

2003-04-06 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
We hope to be adding a small scale processor, as well, by next fall. Edward Beggs http://www.biofuels.ca On Saturday, April 5, 2003, at 05:36 PM, Tom Gehlen wrote: > thanks Craig! > TNG > - Original Message - > From: "Craig Pech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2

Re: [biofuel] This is cute....

2003-04-06 Thread Keith Addison
>I don't type that fast, directly from a copy of the bible and my kids were >starting to act up when I was in the middle of typing the message, and I had >to deal with them. > >Funny how some people just don't take things at face value. > >Greg H. Well, Greg, what I take at face value is that you

[biofuel] The Reason Why by GEORGE MCGOVERN

2003-04-06 Thread MH
The Reason Why by GEORGE MCGOVERN [from the April 21, 2003 issue] The Nation http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20030421&s=mcgovern Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do and die. --Alfred, Lord Tennyson "The Charge of the Light Brigade" (in the Crimean War)

[Biofuel] American late-night TV jokes....

2003-04-06 Thread MH
about war with Iraq "War continues in Iraq. They're calling it Operation Iraqi Freedom. They were going to call it Operation Iraqi Liberation until they realized that spells "OIL"." -- Jay Leno "CNN said that after the war, there is a plan to divide Iraq into three parts: reg