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doesn't sound a whole lot different than standard biogas digestion, of which
the methane (CH4) is rich in hydrogen. Simple is often better.
Steve Spence
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Please respond direct, he's not a list member. - K
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Greetings Green Energy Pioneers!
I am writing with a request for
I am a new addition to the group trying to establish the feaasibility
of establishing a small scale plant to process garden wast (of the
order of 20 to 50 m3/day into biodiesel --- are there precedents
anywhere and what is the financial feasibility?
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Hello,
I've been trying to find technical info on the use of ethanol in the
biodiesel manufacturing process, with no luck. I've been discussing the
possibility of a small-scale plant that produced both biodiesel and
ethanol, using agricultural raw materials (we are lucky in California -
lots of
Dear Hakan,
That is an interesting site, although it seems a bit out of date
(pre-Enron days c. 2000). Increasing efficiency is certainly an important
component. Here is a recent article on the topic:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/5333274.htm
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003, Hakan
Dear Brah,
I see no solution to the current system but it's
destruction and replacement by another.
I sincerely hope we don't have to return to square one after all the work to
get this far. Granted there are lots of problems, but can't you find anything
worth building on? If we keep
This is all very interesting to me- I just spent part of last night
looking for diy methanol info, with no success. My interest was in
looking for info on turning methane (from a digester, digesting
glycerine and other waste) into methanol. I now know more about fuel
methanol (yuck) and no
Hi mark,
as far as I know the easy way to go - to put an O
into the CH4 by a catalytic reaction - is not
state of the art. We were talking one time about
that and decied not to follow the theme (also it
seems a little bit dangerous to make it this way).
If you find something new to that theme
I found out that for a little while longer you can hear a version of the
KPFA radio program on biodiesel from last week (one of the guests, Brent, a
friend of mine who just got into the biodiesel industry, couldn't pronounce
transesterification. Consequently our Earth Day table the following
does anybody know where its legal to buy sulfuric acid in 95%
quantities? THe foolproof process calls for it and while it is
widely used in industry its not really available for the consumer.
Also will 48% work, just a lot slower? Will the excess water in
that solution make it soap up? Any
I've just been talking to a man about running buses on SVO.
He reckons that buses that spend a lot of time with the engine ticking over
have a problem with fuel contamination of the sump oil.
Can anyone confirm this?
James
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Good for him. Not the reason I voted for him, but it's a bonus.
Of course, I'm one of the group that feels the deed was necessary, and not
evil. To each his own I suppose.
Steve Spence
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I think small engines have their oil changed frequently enough that this
isn't a problem.
The Burlington Northern Rail Road study in Montana was a problem as
lubricating oil for railroad engines is changed infrequently, a reservoir
and external filtration being employed. The Safflower oil which
Hello Karus, Bryan
Hello,
I've been trying to find technical info on the use of ethanol in the
biodiesel manufacturing process, with no luck.
There's quite a lot of info in the archives, and more here:
Ethyl-esters biodiesel
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_link.html#ethylester
I've been
We change our oil in our road vehicles every 3 - 5 k miles. the test engine
has it's oil changed every hour or so, as it's using the lubricating oil as
fuel. One old engine always used a bit of lubricating oil as fuel and ended
up running away until it broke.
Steve Spence
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Hello Bryan
Keith,
I sincerely appreciate this lively philosophical debate. When I have
attempted in the past to paraphrase and restate what I believe to be
your position, you accused me of putting words in your mouth.
You did though - it essentially changed what I said. I don't see why
you
Most Methanol made in America today is made from Natural gas by destructive
distilation. You can make your own with methain using copper scub pads for a
catilist but it is expensive. You would be better off useing ethel alcohol. You
can use cornmeal to take the last 5% of the water out of the
yep, and it's the electoral vote that counts in this country, not the
popular vote.
Steve Spence
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Amen.
Greg H.
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The American system could work fairly well with a few minor
adjustments, like limits on campaign
Before the catalytic reaction process, methanol was made from the
destructive distillation of wood, or making charcoal and distillation /
condensing of the gasses given off in the process. A very time consuming
and un-efficient process, I think that it was on the order of 1 gal of mixed
liquid
Keith,
I too found information on the process of creating methanol from syn-gas
(CO, CO2, H2):
http://www.methanex.com/emergingenergy/syngasfactory.htm
Although I could not find out how the natural gas is transformed into
the syngas, I did
find some information on destructive distillation:
Once upon a time it was created with CH4 + O and a chromium or copper
catalyst. High pressure and temperatures were needed, that's why even
the big plants use syngas now.
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Hi mark,
as far as I know the
What about Representative Ron Paul? -BRAH
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The American system
I have been told that oil contamination by fuel on idling semis is a
problem, including anecdotal stories of overflowing crankcases on semis left
to idle all night. The engine block apparently doesn't maintain a high
enuff temp (and the compression is lower than operating conditions), leading
to
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I'm about 100 gallons into this home brew game and quite
addicted. But there's the environmental issue tht I hear many of
y'all turning over, methanol is pretty nasty, ethanol a bit more
friendly.
I have been told that I can recover almost all of the methanol.
is this right.
yep, and it's the electoral vote that counts in this country, not the
popular vote.
Steve Spence
My guess is most people figured that out
but just in case, Steve has seconded the
emotion.
If anyone would like to check the results --
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Hello,
Here is another question for the people who know their
plastics: Can I store my .1% lye solution in a
regular pop/bottled water bottle? Or does it need to
be in #2 plastic as well? Thanks,
Dan
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Subject: Seeking Bus and driver
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Greetings Green Energy Pioneers!
I am writing with a request for
Talk to the guys at The Revenoor Co. They build stills from 5 to 1,000 gallon
capacity and larger. They also build a recycling still to recover acetones,
thinners and the likes. Making your own ethanol is very easy, legal and
fun.www.revenoor.com503.662.4173
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