Re: [biofuel] Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence (was: Why did Bush cite forged evidence?)

2003-06-15 Thread Hakan
Marc, The argument for the hurry of the "Iraqi Freedom" occupation, was that the WMD was already weponized and distributed to Iraqi forces. This argument was not true and is already proven. If they want to find the stockpiles of the WMD used in the 80's, they have to start in US. It is not nece

Re: The Cult of High Mileage (was RE: [biofuel] Funding Petroleum Warlords)

2003-06-15 Thread Brent S
>From: "csakima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >To: >Subject: Re: The Cult of High Mileage (was RE: [biofuel] Funding Petroleum >Warlords) >Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:18:05 -0500 > >"Why can I make a small truck get high 20s mpg when a new V8 dodge dakota >with all it'

Re: [biofuel] Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence (was: Why did Bush cite forged evidence?)

2003-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
>"Hoodwinked > >John Prados is a senior analyst with the National Security Archive in >Washington, DC. His current book is Lost Crusader: The Secret Wars of >CIA Director William Colby. > >Like a band of street hustlers hawking their three-card monte, Bush >officials have been changing their reaso

[biofuel] Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence (was: Why did Bush cite forged evidence?)

2003-06-15 Thread Marc de Piolenc
"Hoodwinked John Prados is a senior analyst with the National Security Archive in Washington, DC. His current book is Lost Crusader: The Secret Wars of CIA Director William Colby. Like a band of street hustlers hawking their three-card monte, Bush officials have been changing their reasonin

Re[2]: [biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

2003-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Hakan >Keith, > >Although I agree in what you are saying, I just want to insert >a couple of clarifications, > >At 12:51 AM 6/16/2003 +0900, you wrote: > >Hello Hakan, Gustl, Kris and all > > > > >I did not mean to equate individual Americans with the government > > >or the "ruling establishme

[biofuels-biz] LNG Article

2003-06-15 Thread murdoch
With all this chat about Greenspan endorsing LNG as a partial solution to the U.S.'s looming nat-gas shortages (particularly with so much of our electricity generation presently coming from natural gas) I thought this article proved instructive: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/bu

[biofuel] LNG Article

2003-06-15 Thread murdoch
With all this chat about Greenspan endorsing LNG as a partial solution to the U.S.'s looming nat-gas shortages (particularly with so much of our electricity generation presently coming from natural gas) I thought this article proved instructive: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/bu

Re: [biofuel] Re: Natural gas - was Re: This is so pathetic

2003-06-15 Thread murdoch
Hello Keith: I'd appreciate it if others could comment please I believe you are incorrect. I take Natural gas to be essentially made up of CH4. LPG is, apparently, as follows from the Shell site: >LPG stands for Liquiefied Petroelum Gas later it gives this, apparently indicating LPG as contain

[biofuel] Re: Natural gas - was Re: This is so pathetic

2003-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello MM > >>>Have we forgotten where the name, "natural gas," came from? A wide > >variety > >>>of bacteria and other organisms (e.g., cows) produce it, including some > >plants. > >>>I believe we can produce all of our energy needs by such simple > >processes, > >>>but the development of these

Re: [biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

2003-06-15 Thread csakima
Well actually, American Democracy is referring to "American People Power" (mis)REPRESENTED by Presidential Administrations and US corporations. After all, they ahem ... "speak" for us (as far as the rest of the world is concerned). To be "exact". And of course, a TERRORIST is defined as "

Re: The Cult of High Mileage (was RE: [biofuel] Funding Petroleum Warlords)

2003-06-15 Thread csakima
"Why can I make a small truck get high 20s mpg when a new V8 dodge dakota with all it's technology only gets 25mpg?" The answer is very simple COST. If the automakers did everything "you" did to improve mileage . and then ADD the markups, profit margin, corporate taxes (etc, etc, etc) .

[biofuel] search for invention contest

2003-06-15 Thread murdoch
http://www.hammacher.com/sfi/deadline.asp Don't know about 2003 http://www.patentcafe.com/corp/pr20010503.asp Here's an article about 2001. I was watching the History Channel, and they were going over the contest. Also a lot of talk about Ron Popeil. Yahoo! Groups

Re: [renewable-energy] Re: [biofuel] Natural gas - was Re: This is so pathetic

2003-06-15 Thread murdoch
>>>Have we forgotten where the name, "natural gas," came from? A wide >variety >>>of bacteria and other organisms (e.g., cows) produce it, including some >plants. >>>I believe we can produce all of our energy needs by such simple >processes, >>>but the development of these would require the same

Re[2]: [biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

2003-06-15 Thread Hakan
Keith, Although I agree in what you are saying, I just want to insert a couple of clarifications, At 12:51 AM 6/16/2003 +0900, you wrote: >Hello Hakan, Gustl, Kris and all > > >I did not mean to equate individual Americans with the government > >or the "ruling establishment" i.e. corporations.

Re[2]: [biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

2003-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Hakan, Gustl, Kris and all >Dear Gustl, > >My answer inserted below, > >At 08:48 AM 6/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >Hallo Hakan, > > > >Friday, 13 June, 2003, 06:59:59, you wrote: > >H> Kris, > >H> What's wrong? Bush always talk about introducing American > >H> democracy in the world. He is

[biofuel] (fwd) [RAV4-EV] GM, Ford essentially bankrupt

2003-06-15 Thread murdoch
I am forwarding these comments made by Doug Korthof. Doug is an LA-area EV Driver and solar energy user and activist on both EV issues and some other local environmental issues. He's also the first person who gave me a ride in an EV and has leased several production EVs, including an EV1. I i

[biofuel] Re: Self-drive cars ahead

2003-06-15 Thread murdoch
>> >>And they call that driving?, might as well take the bus. >> >>RegardsPaul Gobert. > >Hi Paul > >Might as well, yes. Or the train. If there is a bus or a train, but >most likely there isn't, and there should be... > >My sympathies, I feel much the same, but on the other hand, how many >"

Re: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead

2003-06-15 Thread gobie
- Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >- Original Message - > >From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > BBC NEWS | Technology | Self-drive cars ahead > > > 7 June, 2003, 07:46 GMT 08:46 UK > > > > > > Self-drive cars ahead > > > > > "I don't

Re: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead

2003-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
>- Original Message - >From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > BBC NEWS | Technology | Self-drive cars ahead > > 7 June, 2003, 07:46 GMT 08:46 UK > > > > Self-drive cars ahead > > > "I don't mean that we shouldn't have and use cars, just that they > > should be driven by computers

Re: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead

2003-06-15 Thread doug foskey
On Thursday 12 June 2003 11:18 pm, Appal Energy wrote: > Naw. They're computer controlled and independently moving - no tethers. > > Makes one wonder how bad the snarls on I-5 would be the first time an > onboard computer went AWOL, or exactly how other vehicles could handle a > catastrophic condi

Re: [biofuel] Article On Hydrogen Leakage

2003-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Caltech's news report on the study: http://atcaltech.caltech.edu/tech-today/subpage.tcl?story_id=9281 Hydrogen Economy Might Impact Earth's Stratosphere National Hydrogen Association's response: http://www.commondreams.org/news2003/0613-01.htm FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE JUNE 13, 2003 1:15 PM CONTACT

[biofuel] "Iraqi Freedom" occupation, was: Some Arabs prefer western imperialism

2003-06-15 Thread Hakan
Wanted to make some comments on the very good Fisk interview. Started off by changing the subject and then discovered that it was not much more to say. "Iraqi Freedom" occupation. LOL Hakan At 03:25 PM 6/15/2003 +0900, you wrote: >Arabs like Ahmed Chalabi certainly do. > >What a strange, histo

Re: [biofuel] Some Arabs prefer western imperialism

2003-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Arabs like Ahmed Chalabi certainly do. What a strange, history-free view - a bit like looking at "development" in Africa without more than glancing reference to the colonial powers, as if those borders (cutting communities in half, merging traditional rivals, etc etc etc), those communications

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Some Arabs prefer western imperialism

2003-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
Arabs like Ahmed Chalabi certainly do. What a strange, history-free view - a bit like looking at "development" in Africa without more than glancing reference to the colonial powers, as if those borders (cutting communities in half, merging traditional rivals, etc etc etc), those communications