[biofuel] The Queda Was: Cheney, Bush and Iraq 9/11 links

2004-06-18 Thread Curtis Sakima
I've heard reports that Al Queda is not really an organization well, not in the usual sense of the word (President/Vice/Treasurer/Generals/Sargeants/Leutenants/ETC). In fact (on that same report) ... it was said that there is catagorically not that much difference between Al Queda

Re: Producing Hydrogen - was Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 2184

2004-06-18 Thread Arcologic
[Edited to change subject heading from Digest #, which nobody will read and which fouls up archives searches for ever. - KA] John said, about electolysis, Is it more efficient at higher pressures? NO, less efficient. Le Chatelier's principle: If a stress is applied to a system in

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cheney, Bush and Iraq 9/11 links

2004-06-18 Thread John Woolsey
biobenz in specific, but it really applies to anyone on this list who wants to try. Remember I live in Canada and at least one of our political parties believes that opposing the States is valid party policy. They believe valid policy is doing the opposite of anything the US does. To me that

Re: [biofuel] Re: Australia - home brewers have to pay excise

2004-06-18 Thread John Woolsey
Recycling is interesting from a variety of levels. You are likely correct that it may be there primarily to assuage guilt. But the interesting thing is governments are paying for it to happen. It was a first step and it proves that we are capable of moving further. Packaging legislation

[biofuel] UK Methanol - 40p per L on 250L

2004-06-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Bio-dieselers Because of the number of people coming forward for methanol, the price has changed significantly. If people group together I will sell 250L of anhydrous methanol in 25L drums for just £100 all in. Alternatively, if you want just one drum or a few drop me an e-mail and I can

[biofuel] Re: Request for listers

2004-06-18 Thread Andre Shoumatoff
It is not that big a deal, it is just that I have been on a few lists with a similar amount of members (about 2500) and people CAN and do trim their messages. Digest mode is also great because it makes lists like this accessible to people like me who can't deal with 50+ emails a day. But

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cheney, Bush and Iraq 9/11 links

2004-06-18 Thread John Woolsey
I have no intention of listing good things. The point has nothing to do with defending the US. The point is to see if you see the US as good and bad or just bad or just good. If you fit into the just bad or just good categories you should probably rethink your position. For example Saddam

[biofuel] Re: wondering about this comment

2004-06-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here Here Brian I agree, i also enjoy the political comment, its taken me out of my fat dumb and happy state and into someone with a little more awareness of the world, I believe that people from all religious persuasions must take a step back, take a long hard look at themselves and have some

[biofuel] USDA finds ethanol's positive net energy balance has increased by 33%

2004-06-18 Thread Tilapia
In a message dated 6/16/04 8:24:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bio-Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- posted by [EMAIL PROTECTED] USDA finds ethanol's positive net energy balance has increased by 33% The U.S. Department of

[biofuel] Small batch production of Biodiesel from oilseed

2004-06-18 Thread Ted Johnson
Tried to search for this in the archives, but wasn't able to narrow it down sufficiently. Do you know a good source of info for small low-tech biodiesel production from oilseed crops? A friend http://ideorg.org is working on technology for a small diesel motor for pumps in 3rd world countries.

Re: [biofuel] KOH in the USA

2004-06-18 Thread Derek Sceats
Hi Gregg, Thanks for the response. I am really curious where people are getting the chemicals like KOH and sulphuric acid, so hopefully so of the seasoned veterans will shed some light there. I understand that lye works well, though I am interested in testing KOH as an alternative, since

Re: [biofuel] KOH in the USA

2004-06-18 Thread Appal Energy
Steve, KOH flake at http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/dry.html. Scroll down. Commercial quantities http://www.ashtachemicals.com/mapfs.htm Sulfuric acid can be acquired through professional wastewater treatment and pool supply companies. http://www.aquascience.com/ Whether they will ship gallons to

Re: [biofuel] Request for listers

2004-06-18 Thread Appal Energy
Sir Freebird, You specifically stated that it was biodiesel info that was useless. Now you're contorting that remark and saying that it's something else that is useless. Please stick to your guns. Otherwise there is little else to believe that your intent is to obufuscate. As for the

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: re: Possible Phone interview

2004-06-18 Thread Appal Energy
Biodiesel from a potatoe? (Misspelling courtesy of Dan Quail.) Perhaps he's thinking more along the lines of wodka? Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:00 PM Subject: [biofuel] Fwd: re:

Re: [biofuel] USDA finds ethanol's positive net energy balance has increased by 33%

2004-06-18 Thread John Woolsey
Hasn't Brasil been using Ethanol for years now? - bfn - JAW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/16/04 8:24:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bio-Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- posted by [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[biofuel] New to group

2004-06-18 Thread nrrmman
Hi! My name is Keith. I'm from a small town near Green Bay, WI USA I currently don't have a use for Bio-Diesel, but have started collecting some WVO, plan on getting a used oil furnace to burn this winter instead of relying on Propane for heat. I'm disabled so with a tight budget I have been

Re: [biofuel] KOH in the USA

2004-06-18 Thread steven mesibov
Thanks Todd! That will give me a good start! Steve --- Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, KOH flake at http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/dry.html. Scroll down. Commercial quantities http://www.ashtachemicals.com/mapfs.htm Sulfuric acid can be acquired through professional

Re: [biofuel] USDA finds ethanol's positive net energy balance has increased by 33%

2004-06-18 Thread Art Krenzel
In a message dated 6/16/04 8:24:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bio-Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- posted by [EMAIL PROTECTED] USDA finds ethanol's positive net energy balance has increased by 33% The U.S. Department of

Re: [biofuel] KOH in the USA

2004-06-18 Thread Gregg Davidson
Hi Derek, I'm not sure about where to tell you to look for the KOH, but the NaOH is fairly common around my neck of the woods as Red Devil lye drain opener. I haven't found a major supplier of methanol yet, but since I'm experimenting with small batches, .5 to 1 litre, I can get what I need

RE: [biofuel] USDA finds ethanol's positive net energy balance has increased by 33%

2004-06-18 Thread Contactos Mundiales
Dear Tilapia: This may be true for corn ethanol, however our numbers are much better for sugar cane ethanol by a wide margin. We are embarked on a demonstration project to prove that: 1- It is possible to get up to 30,000 (thirty thousand) liters of ethanol per Hectare per year, equivalent to

[biofuel] some biodiesel classes on the East Coast, Biodiesel Appleseed tour update?

2004-06-18 Thread girl mark
Apologies for the big crosspost, and for the size of this email. I'm teaching or co-teaching a few biodiesel classes coming up on the East Coast, and have dates for a few of them set. I am working on a few other class dates in the Midwest as well, which is why this got posted to some Midwest

[biofuel] Oops....

2004-06-18 Thread adegroot
Was trying to read down thread messages inreply to a question about glycerine-methanol seperation and yahoo wouldn't show them to me... Anyway, the extraction of methanol from glycerine (or glycerine soap) is basically the same process as seperating ethanol from water. I'd look carefully

[biofuel] Now, the question I joined this list to ask...

2004-06-18 Thread adegroot
I own NO diesel vehicle, or diesel engine of any description or purpose. I've been looking at this because a friend asked me to (he DOES have diesel powered vehicle), but he isn't scientifically inclined And most of the questions I had have already been answered simply by reading all the

[biofuel] On another note... (a philosophical question)

2004-06-18 Thread adegroot
Though not a bio fuel question I want opinions... I have been running my gasoline powered vehicles on an alternative fuel source... sorta... But first some explanation Due to relatively recent(reasonable) changes in environmental laws the automobile recycling buisness has been getting

[biofuel] How much fuel can we grow?

2004-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
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[biofuel] Re: Request for listers

2004-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Andre It is not that big a deal, it is just that I have been on a few lists with a similar amount of members (about 2500) and people CAN and do trim their messages. Digest mode is also great because it makes lists like this accessible to people like me who can't deal with 50+ emails a

Re: [biofuel] Re: Australia - home brewers have to pay excise

2004-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
I still think there are ways to protect our future without projecting the ultimate doom of the planet. I look around at the recycling programs today and they astound me considering our lifestyle of 20 years ago. We need to find ways to change things for the better that are easily acceptable

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: re: Possible Phone interview

2004-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
Biodiesel from a potatoe? (Misspelling courtesy of Dan Quail.) LOL! I wonder if Dan could spell misspelling? I seldom can. Perhaps he's thinking more along the lines of wodka? :-) Maybe. Or (slim chance) maybe he's looking for someone who knows from biodiesel to explain it all to listeners

Re: [biofuel] Cheney, Bush and Iraq 9/11 links Shell Shocks Industry

2004-06-18 Thread MH
Hi Stuart, Hoagy and all Hi Keith, Published on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 by the Associated Press 9/11 Commission: No Link Between Al-Qaida and Saddam by Hope Yen http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0616-01.htm Well, we three know it, and quite a few others round here know it

Re: [biofuel] Re: looking for a biodiesel 4x4 station wagon

2004-06-18 Thread Doug Foskey
Pugs are great! I now have 2 of 405 SRDT sedans. The last I just bought for $A8500. Car is in good condition, with 180,000 Kms. regards Doug On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well if your Biodeisel is top notch, try a Peugeot 406 HDi Wagon for size, common rail and it

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cheney, Bush and Iraq 9/11 links

2004-06-18 Thread Hakan Falk
John, At 22:32 17/06/2004, you wrote: I have no intention of listing good things. The point has nothing to do with defending the US. The point is to see if you see the US as good and bad or just bad or just good. If you fit into the just bad or just good categories you should probably

[biofuel] solar panels was Re: Australia - home brewers have to pay excise

2004-06-18 Thread Kim Garth Travis
I think your statement is reasonable, except that you have a very wrong reason for why many people do not use solar panels. What has happened in Houston, Texas and probably elsewhere is that the homeowners boards in most areas won't allow the panels as they are considered unsightly. I own

Re: [biofuel] On another note... (a philosophical question)

2004-06-18 Thread Kim Garth Travis
At 12:35 AM 6/18/2004, you wrote: Though not a bio fuel question I want opinions... Does anyone agree with me that re-use of something As-is is better than recycling? AllanD Totally, I think the list of Reduce, Re-use then Recycle is in order of importance. Bright Blessings, Kim

Re: [biofuel] Making Methanol from Glycerin ( was Re: Biodiesel Glycerin-to-Methanol Condensor plans )

2004-06-18 Thread Greg Harbican
Keith, this message posted back on the 5th of June why is it, and many other old messages being reposted? Greg H. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 23:48 Subject: [biofuel] Making Methanol from Glycerin (

Re: [biofuel] New to the group

2004-06-18 Thread Martin Klingensmith
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