Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?

2006-07-31 Thread Will Kelleher
Why not combine the best of both and create a diesel hybrid? Better city AND highway mileage!On 7/30/06, robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Lowe wrote: I can remember seeing an episode of the English show Top Gear,www.bbc.co.uk/topgear where the consumption

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-07-31 Thread lres1
Castor still has the Ricin problem. can any one let me know how to destroy this by product in the mash? I need to process for oil enough seeds to supply 200 liters/day of castor oil. The Ricin in two seeds are enough to kill a person depending on the type of ingestion in 2 to 7 days. There

Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?

2006-07-31 Thread Tony Marzolino
Hello Will, Great idea. In fact, I believe WV actually makes one, but it is not available in the US and gas mileage around 90.Can anyone verify this? Thanks, Tony MarzolinoWill Kelleher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not combine the best of both and create a diesel hybrid? Better city AND

[Biofuel] RFID Controversy

2006-07-31 Thread D. Mindock
Below is an excerpt from Wikipedia on RFID. New RFIDs are much cheaper, flexible,and printedvia polymers. They can be read at considerable distances. Peace, D. Mindock Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) Controversy How would you like it if, for instance, one day you realized your

[Biofuel] Smoke gets in their eyes

2006-07-31 Thread D. Mindock
There is no such thing as Clean Coal or Green Nuclear Energy. But government seems to want to brainwash the masseswith repetition of those phrases: clean coal, clean coal, green nuclear, green nuclear, ad infinitum. Are you ready to throwup yet? Peace, D. Mindock Smoke gets in their eyes

Re: [Biofuel] Has Orwell's 1984 come 22 years later?

2006-07-31 Thread Andy Karpay
The short answers to your two questions are: Yes 1984 is here 22 years later And A lot (it will get a lot worse) -Original Message- From: Kirk McLoren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:00 PM To: biofuel Subject: [Biofuel] Has Orwell's 1984 come 22

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-07-31 Thread bob allen
here is an article that says you can get 900 gallons of ethanol per acre from sorghum, with lower energy inputs than corn. I can't speak for the veracity of the the claim, I just googled sorghum ethanol http://www.itsgood4.us/ethanol.htm Jason Katie wrote: WHAT!?!?!?!?!? Could we

[Biofuel] Lebanon, Gaza Iraq - might makes right

2006-07-31 Thread MH
Washington's Wars and Occupations: Month in Review #15 July 30, 2006 By Max Elbaum, War Times/Tiempo de Guerras LEBANON GAZA: NOTHING IS SAFE Israel's continuing military offensives in Lebanon and Gaza are producing a human catastrophe, and have immense political consequences.

Re: [Biofuel] Castor Beans

2006-07-31 Thread David Penfold
Castor still has the Ricin problem. can any one let me know how to destroy this by product in the mash? snip Apparently the oil is safe, however The pomace, or cake remaining after the oil is pressed out, is poisonous to livestock but can be used for fertilizer. See http://www.castoroil.in/

Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?

2006-07-31 Thread Michael Redler
Kirk,I respectfully disagree.By definition,hybridsare about throwing the apples and orangesin the same basket.(IMO), what makes one hybrid scheme better than another is the region it's being usedand what type of fuel(or fuels) are most abundant and best suited for promoting

Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?

2006-07-31 Thread Simon Fowler MADUR-SALES
A diesel WILL outperform a gasoline hybrid in overall fuel economy. But when we drive around town, there are times when we're using NO fuel at all, which means we're not putting anything into the air either. We burn NO fuel while sitting at a light. A diesel can't do that. I beg to

Re: [Biofuel] EV is not dead

2006-07-31 Thread Joe Street
Hey Darryl; I still have my '92 civic hatch sitting in my driveway. Do you know of any instructions or anyone who has converted one to electric? Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Marzolino wrote: Hey Guys - These are great, but once again..NO prices and NO availability? Are there

Re: [Biofuel] Coal

2006-07-31 Thread bob allen
a big part of the clean coal scheme is archival subterranean sequestration of CO2. I suspect Illinois looks better for the storage of CO2- but I really doubt that such storage can be achieved, let alone proven to work for many centuries. Kirk McLoren wrote: Mudd said the Illinois sites in

Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?

2006-07-31 Thread robert and benita rabello
Simon Fowler MADUR-SALES wrote: I beg to differ. There is nothing to stop you switching the engine off when standing still. We have signs requesting you to do so at some level crossings as well. You're right, and I concede that point. However, I've never seen anyone do this at a stop

Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?

2006-07-31 Thread Joe Street
Yes and constant starting is not what your starter was designed for so you'll be replacing it a hell of a lot sooner. What is the energy budget of that scenario? Gasoline engines run richer when starting also. Joe robert and benita rabello wrote: Simon Fowler MADUR-SALES wrote: I

Re: [Biofuel] EV is not dead

2006-07-31 Thread Thomas Kelly
Joe, Check out the sites Darryl included at the bottom of his post. There is some very cool stuff including a link to Build an EV. It has instructions, including costs, components, etc. for converting to an EV. Hondas are mentioned as being a popular choice

Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?

2006-07-31 Thread Mike Redler
Hi Kirk, I think I may have misunderstood. If I did and you are saying that comparing hybrids and non-hybrids, irrespective of the fuel they burn, I agree. ...sorry if I missed your point. -Redler Kirk McLoren wrote: Comparing a gasoline hybrid with a diesel is apples and oranges.

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-07-31 Thread bob allen
the toxin is a protein which can be denatured, that is made non-toxic by a number of means. Simply heating it long enough will do. I am sure there are references as to how to denature ricin. lres1 wrote: Castor still has the Ricin problem. can any one let me know how to destroy this by

Re: [Biofuel] RFID Controversy

2006-07-31 Thread Kirk McLoren
Just how far this can be depends on the type of the reader, but in the extreme case some readers have a maximum power output of 4 W, enabling signals to be received from tens of kilometres away.[citationneeded] -- This is misleading. This "reader" is basically a

Re: [Biofuel] Castor Beans

2006-07-31 Thread Keith Addison
David Penfold wrote: Castor still has the Ricin problem. can any one let me know how to destroy this by product in the mash? snip Apparently the oil is safe, however The pomace, or cake remaining after the oil is pressed out, is poisonous to livestock but can be used for fertilizer. See

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-07-31 Thread Kirk McLoren
C is infinitely easier to sequester than CO2. Is a solid at room temperature and pressure.KirkJason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speaking of pyrolysis... what can we do with the carbon left over in the charcoal instead of burning it? this is a solid carbon that otherwise does not get into

Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?

2006-07-31 Thread Kirk McLoren
yes comparing hybrid to non hybrid is not much of a comparison - they are too different and the hybrid would really shine in stop and go. If they are comparing mpg then the prime movers need to be the same technology. Again the hybrid should shine in the city. On open road you are relying on the

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-07-31 Thread Jason Katie
what about making bricks out of it? add a hardener and press it into building materials. JasonICQ#: 154998177MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel]

[Biofuel] power on tap - water powered car?

2006-07-31 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/07/28/1750967.htm Power on tap (New Scientist Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge) FORGET cars fuelled by alcohol and vegetable oil. Before long, you might be able to run your car with nothing more than water in its fuel tank. It would be the ultimate

Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?

2006-07-31 Thread econogics
robert and benita rabello wrote: Simon Fowler MADUR-SALES wrote: I beg to differ. There is nothing to stop you switching the engine off when standing still. We have signs requesting you to do so at some level crossings as well. I do this at certain traffic lights in both my (bio)diesel

[Biofuel] co2 to baking soda..was... Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-07-31 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
Company develops process to turn CO2 into baking soda http://www.alternate-energy.net/co2_to_baking_soda05.html Get your daily alternative energy news Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net Next

[Biofuel] A Primeval Tide of Toxins

2006-07-31 Thread D. Mindock
Altered Oceans The Rise of Slime A Primeval Tide of Toxins Runoff from modern life is feeding an explosion of primitive organisms. This 'rise of slime,' as one scientist calls it, is killing larger species and sickening people. By Kenneth R. Weiss, Times Staff Writer July 30, 2006 The

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-07-31 Thread Appal Energy
And/or 100,000 gallons of oil per acre when growing algae. Todd Swearingen \ Kirk McLoren wrote: 1000 gallons methanol per acre with hemp if using pyrolytic distillation. Kirk */Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: WHAT!?!?!?!?!? Could we replace all our oil with

[Biofuel] {Disarmed} Electric Cars!!!

2006-07-31 Thread Luis Eduardo Puerto
Electric cars Not so shocking Jul 27th 2006 | SANTA MONICAFrom The Economist print edition High-tech entrepreneurs unveil a sporty electric car ASK people if they would buy a new electric car and most will respond blankly. After all, electric cars have not been seen in large numbers for nearly

Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?

2006-07-31 Thread Mike Redler
Simon mentioned shutting down the engine at stop lights because in Europe, it's commonplace. I travel to Switzerland every year and over there (where rules mean everything - whether written or implied) everybody does it. The benefit of a hybrid does not make itself known on the highway where

Re: [Biofuel] A Primeval Tide of Toxins

2006-07-31 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
Very scary article and very sad indeed. Just another example of the many ways we are destroying the planet, regards tallex ---Original Message--- From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] A Primeval Tide of Toxins Sent: 31 Jul '06 23:42 Altered Oceans    The

Re: [Biofuel] Coal

2006-07-31 Thread JJJN
I have never understood why when they know that putting it in the air is bad they would start to try and mess up the aquifers too. They will spend tons of money on a poor solution they can label green instead of just surrendering to a long term solution. bob allen wrote: a big part of the

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-07-31 Thread Keith Addison
And/or 100,000 gallons of oil per acre when growing algae. Todd Swearingen \ Um, where exactly are these acres of algae each producing 100,000 gallons of oil? Anywhere here on Planet Earth in August 2006? :-) Keith Kirk McLoren wrote: 1000 gallons methanol per acre with hemp if using