Re: [Biofuel] I don't get it,

2007-01-19 Thread Chip Mefford
Jason& Katie wrote: > i understand this, but they are patenting a new process that gives them a > drug with a different chemical configuration which is technically a > different drug even though it has (supposedly) the same effect, and as far > as i know an effect cannot be patented, just the pa

Re: [Biofuel] I don't get it,

2007-01-19 Thread Jason& Katie
i understand this, but they are patenting a new process that gives them a drug with a different chemical configuration which is technically a different drug even though it has (supposedly) the same effect, and as far as i know an effect cannot be patented, just the path to it. - Original Mes

[Biofuel] Mark of the Beast Dept. RFID Tattoo for Tracking Cattle and Humans

2007-01-19 Thread Mike Weaver
RFID Tattoo for Tracking Cattle and Humans Cattle branding comes to the 21st Century High-tech tattoo more than a pretty picture By Bill Ray → More by this author

Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARS

2007-01-19 Thread DHAJOGLO
He knows about the process but stated the enegy inputs are higher then the traditional mashing/fermenting method for large scale production. I am not at all familar with how the cellulose methods work. I would posit its more efficient to grind up the plant, stalk, cob, corn and all and press

Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARS VASTLY UNDERSTATED

2007-01-19 Thread frantz
Joe Street a écrit : > I think sugar beets are a better bet for use in ethanol production > than corn. > > Joe and it's the choice made for industrial production of ethanol in France and Belgium. Monoculture that needs as well fertilizers and pesticides, but less water or GMO than corn. And suga

Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARS

2007-01-19 Thread M&K DuPree
Hi Dave...you say, "However, the plant operator did long to use the direct conversion method of celluose to ethanol were it not for the even higher input costs." I'm wondering if the operator has the ability to convert cellulose to ethanol, but it's too expensive OR does the operator need to ac

Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARS

2007-01-19 Thread DHAJOGLO
Its interesting you say that. The Ethanol plant in WY is located next door to a sugar beet processing plant. They pointed out the cost of sugar beets is to high compared to the corn (though I'm not sure if they considered the energy inputs to converting the corn to sugar as part of those cost

Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARSVASTLY UNDERSTATED

2007-01-19 Thread John Beale
Oh, Monsanto: how we adore thee. On Jan 19, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Marylynn Schmidt wrote: > Yes, but does Monsanto own the patient on sugar beets??? > > Mary Lynn > > Mary Lynn Schmidt, distributor Psionic Energy Software > http://miracle6bizland.com/softwaresolutions/ > > Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt

Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARSVASTLY UNDERSTATED

2007-01-19 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Yes, but does Monsanto own the patient on sugar beets??? Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt, distributor Psionic Energy Software http://miracle6bizland.com/softwaresolutions/ Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART: Facilitator/Consultant for Alternative Healing Modalities an

Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARS VASTLY UNDERSTATED

2007-01-19 Thread Joe Street
I think sugar beets are a better bet for use in ethanol production than corn. Joe Zeke Yewdall wrote: Now, using corn for fueling cars does sound like a lousy idea, but not because it might increase corn prices. Considering that corn now sells for only about two thirds of what it costs to gr

Re: [Biofuel] I don't get it,

2007-01-19 Thread Chip Mefford
Jason& Katie wrote: > http://www.bitlaw.com/source/35usc/101.html > it goes on to say in article 102 that if it is not the item or >process< > (big emphasis- the process is basically the invention) originally patented, > then it can be patented to the new inventor without infringing on the > ori

Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?

2007-01-19 Thread David Kramer
robert and benita rabello wrote: rabr> There was a very disturbing story on NPR last month that dealt with rabr> this issue in a Missouri church community. Listen with caution! rabr> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6632499 rabr> Ugh! Yuck!!! I read th

Re: [Biofuel] Dr Strangelove Saves The Earth

2007-01-19 Thread Sarath G
Same was true when Mt. Pinatubo erupted there was a belt of cooling in the tropics, but particulates and acid rain are no good at the ground level. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Pinatubo Sarath Washington DC On 1/18/07, Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes in fact the tragedy of 09