[Biofuel] Re Twentynine steps to the unthinkable

2007-09-30 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo All, Somehow I thought this was the Biofuel list but if I am going on content then I guess it isn't and my reasons are below. First, this is 2007 not the dark ages. We actually have science now and much of what has been posited as fact can be scientifically verified or den

Re: [Biofuel] Re Twentynine steps to the unthinkable

2007-09-30 Thread willapapacific
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Re: [Biofuel] Re Twentynine steps to the unthinkable

2007-09-30 Thread Hakan Falk
Gustl, I am sorry, but I am very sure of existence of the death camps etc.. Not only because I met a lo of survivors, but also the very large photographic evidence. Already in the early 50's I saw a lot of news reels, made mainly by the Americans. We did not have TV at that time and the news j

[Biofuel] Olive branch

2007-09-30 Thread Bob Molloy
Hi All, S,funny, I asked a question on hydropower last week and immediately had four very helpful answers. I followed that up with a query on a subject which has long puzzled me and got clobbered. Granted, it was political dynamite but we're all grown up here, right? Right? Anyho, jus

Re: [Biofuel] Olive branch

2007-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
>Are we, as a society, getting dumber or is it just too much TV?? Too much TV, including you Bob, apparently. Your "Stella Awards" are a vicious bit of pro-corporate anti-human spin. http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp Urban Legends Reference Pages: Stella Awards Stella Awards >Claim:

[Biofuel] Fwd: Burma: A Global Roar

2007-09-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
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Re: [Biofuel] Olive branch

2007-09-30 Thread John Morris
>Legal Myths: The McDonald's "Hot Coffee" Case Thanks, Keith, for sharing this information. I have known about the McDonald's coffee case for a long time, but have never bothered to research the details. I agree that the procorporate, antihuman attitude of much of the United States today is

Re: [Biofuel] Olive branch

2007-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hello John > >Legal Myths: The McDonald's "Hot Coffee" Case > > Thanks, Keith, for sharing this information. I have known about the >McDonald's coffee case for a long time, but have never bothered to >research the details. Yes, it's so easy to swallow all these twisted lies without close exami

Re: [Biofuel] Olive branch

2007-09-30 Thread Chris Burck
john, maybe you need to participate a little more because in spite of your current practice you're doing a good job of sounding pretty pro-corporate/anti-human yourself. the jury didn't find her 20% responsible for the spilling. they found that by doing the spilling, she was 20% liable for the da

[Biofuel] Biofuels could increase global warming with laughing gas

2007-09-30 Thread Bruno M.
Objective science or a paid for anti biofuel action? Grts Bruno M. ~~ www.physorg.com/news109581631.html Biofuels could increase global warming with laughing gas, says Nobel prize-winning chemist Growing and burning many biofuel crops

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuels could increase global warming with laughing gas

2007-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Bruno >Objective science or a paid for anti biofuel action? We've already dealt with it. It's the same study as the one Olivier posted last week: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg71089.html [Biofuel] Rapeseed Biofuel Produces More Greenhouse Gas Than Oil Or Petro

Re: [Biofuel] Olive branch

2007-09-30 Thread John Morris
> >There is no >>way that anyone can convince me that a person is only 20% responsible >>for pouring steaming hot coffee on themselves in their own car. > >She was a passenger, not the driver, cars are things that move, the >passenger is not in control and cannot be expected to predict how and >wh

Re: [Biofuel] Olive branch

2007-09-30 Thread John Morris
>john, maybe you need to participate a little more because in spite of >your current practice you're doing a good job of sounding pretty >pro-corporate/anti-human yourself. Any independent thinker will occasionally do so. The issues our society faces are not nearly as black and white as many p

Re: [Biofuel] Olive branch

2007-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
John > > >There is no > >>way that anyone can convince me that a person is only 20% responsible > >>for pouring steaming hot coffee on themselves in their own car. > > > >She was a passenger, not the driver, cars are things that move, the > >passenger is not in control and cannot be expected to p

Re: [Biofuel] Power harnessed one step at a time

2007-09-30 Thread Dawie Coetzee
How about harnessing footstep energy by actually walking to places? I am developing a distrust in attempts to squeeze the last bit of energy out of things. There are too many cases where extremes of specific efficiency are accompanied by gross whole-system inefficiency. That is, I have a growin

Re: [Biofuel] Olive branch

2007-09-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
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Re: [Biofuel] Re Twentynine steps to the unthinkable

2007-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Bob and all >This is the nub of the matter. Why is this subject banned from discussion in >11 countries (with a 12th about to come on line i.e. the recent American >"hate speech" law which sailed through Congress) and why do otherwise >apparently sane and intelligent people suddenly go la-

[Biofuel] Israeli military aid to Burmese regime: Jane's

2007-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
http://ww4report.com/node/4491 | World War 4 Report Israeli military aid to Burmese regime: Jane's Submitted by David Bloom on Sat, 09/29/2007 - 20:14. The Burmese junta currently shooting unarmed protestors received a cynical plea for restraint from the Israel government on Sept. 29. Accordin