Dear Contactos Mundiales, i have seen your mail on direct fermentation of sugarcane juice. could you plaease elaborate on utilization of effluent generated during this process. Here in india the alcohol is generally made from molasses which produce lot of effluent. please give your valuable comments.
Yours sincerely H.C.Joshi, professor Environmental Sciences Division Indian Agricultural Research Institute New Delhi-12 India --- Contactos Mundiales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mr. P.V.Pannrselvam > Brazil > > Dear Mr. Pannrselvam: > > Thanks ever so much for taking the time to comment > our last message. > I appreciate the way you have presented your ideas > and I take my hat off to > your very high qualifications. Your points of view > can certainly draw the > greatest respect. > > I wound like to correpond with you more often about > our mutual goals > and perspectives. To that effect, should you agree, > I wish to suggest that > we discuss issues, one by one, without rush or > haste. I feel that we both > could benefit from our mutual experiences. We may > have different points of > view, but, in the end, we both strive for a happier > world. > > Something needs to be corrected from your message is > that: > We have never used genetically modified sugar cane > plants > We have never used genetically modified yeast > We do not endorse and have never used or recommended > the use of genetically > modified seeds, plants or any other organism. > > Kindly please review our posts and you will not find > any reference to GMO. > > Your comments will honour me again. > > With warmest regards, > > Luis R. Calzadilla > VP Operations > Fundaciòn Sugar Cane Research Org. > Cali, Colombia > Tel (572) 557-0627 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pan ruti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:13 PM > Subject: RE: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol from sugar > cane:Thebest and worst > technolgy > > > I being dedicated research worker in Brazil > with PhD in Biochemical > engineering from India about alcohol production > from biomass from one of > the best research center in Asia in 1980 , > carefully following the state > of art this technology several decads,feel that > the views of the Keith > is ecological and Luiz , genetic engineering which > are totally totally > different.Even though I belonged unfortunately > this breed of the > higher caste of biotechnology tribes with limited > kespealized kwnowelge > like Dr luiz , I am fortunate enough to leave away > this caste.In india it > is not possible to change the caste because they say > genetica nad god made , > but with the interation of the active yahoo > biofuel group (high quality , > vey ha limited experts group and making great > effort to become an > ecological engineering student , rather than to > have limited specialist > approach like one that of Dr Luiz approach of > genetic engineering , > transgenics and hybrids .The > biotechnology experts in general do not try to see > all aspects and > understand what is natural ,simple , decentralized > ecological system , not > even this natural ecological system developments. > > In Brazil , all high yielding projects of > fruits and any crop lead > to total collapse of the lands water leading to > degradation of lands. > The insects devastations of mono crops of the > Cotton has lead to > billion dollars until now the real reason for the > poverty of the people > who were rich 10 years ago.Yet no biotechnology > experts has introduced new > one here. > > Brazil has high yielding cassava , which can > produce twice the > alcohol.Yet, not able to make it possible reality , > as they used the same > method to implement as that of luiz , with enorme > waste of money eventhouh > this has higher productivity , 2 time that of cane > per ha. > In India a lot of alcohol made in home scale > micro distillery using > biomass energy cheaper and village leval pot > distillation technolgy , with > out any cane at all , using the palm tree can help > to make arrack killing > people as food can be used as biofuel.No patent is > there , not much > literature, but every uneducated can make the > biofuel. > > This can be the best technology as the yeast > there can ferment everty > thing.The best and worst technolgy are very > relative , change place to > place. > > Dr luiz really need to rethink again that the > problem of food , fuel > ,fertilizer, feed and food are inter connected to > make the whole thing work > in Argo industrial system.Only one canot be the > best system to all the > people , to all the country for all the the time > the best. > > Biodiversity is less kwnown to many like > Dr.Luiz. Any less educated > people like native tribal Indians knows very well > that imported one; the > hybrid, the transgenic, genetically modified are not > better than naturally > adopted local variety created by nature. There is > great debate in Brazil > every where now a days about the way the > biotechnology experts groups > are trying to have rapid quick technological anda > economical developments , > in sustainablel for long time where the future > generations food and energy > cannot be assured , as if matter the present > generation. > > Again , I as an scientific researcher on > behave of of the many of the > members fully agree with the Keith and wish that > our group need to focus > the is so com objective and not an attack of > personnel views and opinions. > with out any base and truth. > > I am sure that my words represent the views > of many members who do > not have time not even to read all the important so > many biofuel > information, imagine how they can reply . > > Once Again best wishes Keith keep it up the > correct critical > ecological thinking. > Your hard working dedicated work can only be well > understood to all the > less developed one as you become the part and > parcel of it.When this large > starving people can made his own food and fuel with > out importing fuel > using the road map our group make , there can be > great green future for all > . > > Sorry for my poor English, as I am way 20 years > without the contact with the > language . > > > For all the members the best wishes and > the new happy yaer to all > our biofuel group. > > Thanking you > > Truely > > P.V.Pannrselvam > > > > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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