Hello all, I'm Brian from Portland.  I'm part of the biodiesel co-op
effort up here.

For those of you who don't know, I have a lot of respect for girl
mark.  She helped introduce me to low tech biodiesel making at a
seminar, and has done a lot more than just about anyone I know to
spread the word about biofuels.

It is ironic that as this comes up, our processor was just completed.
I guess you can't please everyone; some people in our group think we
are moving way too fast, others too slow.  Anyway, our activities are
posted in detail on our website:  http://www.gobiodiesel.org

One thing I do know is this: we have a terrific group of really
motivated people who are making a difference.  We are making a
difference by driving biodiesel-powered vehicles, by spreading the
word, by building a cooperative that has a long term future, and by
sharing our experiences.

If you check our site or drop us an email, you can see we're actually
doing most of what girl mark is exhorting folks to do.  We've made
plenty of mistakes and expect to make more, that's just how it goes.

I have no idea where the 77 cent price came from.  Where in the world
did you get that?  I searched the archives and didn't find anything. 
We don't know what the price of our fuel will be; it certainly won't
be 77 cents.  We will be lucky if we can sell it for around the same
cost as petrodiesel.

So, thanks girl mark for sharing all of this experience about the
berkeley co-op.  Please post more!

Blue skies,

-Brian Jamison

--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "girl_mark_fire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just realized that it sounds really mean for me to a) talk about
how the 
> Portland coop is recruiting and talking to reporters, without having
actually 
> made fuel yet, and tob) at the same time be tooting my own horn on a
list 
> about the grand plans of Team Canola, who hasn't made fuel at it's
business 
> site either. 
> The missing difference is that as a 'coop' we actually have been
making drum 
> batches (in my backyard) as part of our 'keep it realistic, keep it
rewarding' 
> approach- so that those in the group who are 'waiting' for the site
to get 
> operational, are at least getting fuel in the process and don' t
burn out... . We 
> took a couple of months of sporadic workdays to build the processor,
these 
> usually involved the sacred mission to Keep the Co-op Work  Fun
(meaning 
> we incorporate barbeque-ing into the equipment workday or fuelmaking 
> party). We've also tried hard to make sure that our members fueling
needs are 
> partly or fully met while  they work on building equipment- so it's
not just 8 
> months of work and meetings and nobiodiesel. (berkeley had a massive
'no 
> reward' problem for a while, you never knew if doing workdays was
going to 
> result in you actually getting any fuel since so little of the stuff
was actually 
> being produced for all the man-hours)  Having seen a lot of burnout
in coops, 
> we've tried hard to keep the 'reward-to-work' ratio high during the
equipment 
> building and design phase, and I strongly suggest anyone organizing
one of 
> these volunteer groups keep this value very high. Bulk buy take some
of the 
> 'reward' pressure off the homebrew end of a coop operation. People
who get 
> a diesel and can't find biodiesel and are waiting for a coop to get
it's act 
> together tend to be very antsy about production and availability!
>  
> mark



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