Re: [Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels?

2004-10-16 Thread MH
Hakan, I'm not well versed on either of these gentlemen but find them interesting notably RMI's HyperCar. Has either of them described how efficiency and renewable energy will replace our current fossil fuel and nuclear energy demands? Besides, an alternative I enjoy, bicycling. > MH

Re: [Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels?

2004-10-16 Thread Hakan Falk
MH, When I read things that Amory Lovins say about energy savings in residential and tertiary buildings, he normally make a lot of sense, but on hydrogen and fuel cells efficiency he is "way out". In best case a hydrogen/fuel cell vehicle have the same efficiency as a gasoline, but will in m

Re: [Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels?

2004-10-14 Thread Greg Harbican
l Message - From: "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 16:55 Subject: [Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels? > Hydrogen or Biofuels? > September / October 2004 > By Amory Lovins and David Morris > Utne magazine

Re: [Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels?

2004-10-14 Thread Phillip Wolfe
My two cents: >From a practical point of view, I would have to agree wiht Mr. David Morris - that Hybrid Cars with traditional alternative fuel are the wave of the future. The market will dictate the pace and if you look at what Toyota is doing with their hybrid cars then one does not have to lo

Re: [Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels?

2004-10-14 Thread Steve Spence
Morris is right, Lovins has soot in his eyes. Steve Spence http://www.green-trust.org - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Dunlap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or

Re: [Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels?

2004-10-13 Thread Jonathan Dunlap
Good one! Jonathan MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hydrogen or Biofuels? September / October 2004 By Amory Lovins and David Morris Utne magazine http://www.utne.com/cgi-bin/udt/im.display.printable?client.id=utne&story.id=11334 Two experts go head-to-head on the future of energy In our Jan

[Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels?

2004-10-13 Thread MH
Hydrogen or Biofuels? September / October 2004 By Amory Lovins and David Morris Utne magazine http://www.utne.com/cgi-bin/udt/im.display.printable?client.id=utne&story.id=11334 Two experts go head-to-head on the future of energy In our January-February 2004 issue, we reprinted fro