Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-07-01 Thread Paul Webber
I volunteer for a group called Charis House in Atlanta, GA. What they do is build a house in a run-down area of the city and sell it at cost to try to help a family get back on its feet and to make the neighborhood better. After a few houses get built in the neighborhood, property values start to

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-30 Thread Zeke Yewdall
A friend of mine owned a small farm in Colorado. Developers bought up the areas around it and the value of the land started doubling every year. Pretty soon it was worth about 60 times what it was when he bought it and the yearly taxes were larger than what he had originally paid for it. Now there

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-27 Thread Doug Younker
John- one problem is if even you own property outright you haven't eliminated your debt. The tax man will still demand payment. As will the insurance man if the use of said property brings mandatory liability insurance coverage. That's not to say you wouldn't be better off owning property

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-27 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo MR, Monday, 26 June, 2006, 16:33:10, you wrote: MR Hi John, MR I don't mean to be a pain in the ass And I do. ;o) MR but, your focus is on company profits, re-issue of currency, and MR monetary greed - not a common denominator in an explanation on why MR both capitalist and

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-26 Thread Doug Younker
I just can't recall when, but the following was from an episode of the Religion and Ethics program aired on PBS during a past Congressional debate on the minimum wage. I recall the term used was just wage. Problem is that here in the USA such criteria is labeled communist, instead of

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-26 Thread John Mullan
I believe that either economic model (communist or capitalist) is destined to collapse, sooner or later. One of the main factors being greed. Greed is what causes inflation. Companies are driven to make more profit. People need more income to purchase the higher priced items they need AND

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-26 Thread Michael Redler
Hi John,I don't mean to be a pain in the ass but, your focus is on company profits, re-issue of currency, and monetary greed- not a common denominatorin an explanation on why both capitalist and communist societies would fail.At least for now, it's not an explanation that makes sense to

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-26 Thread Michael Redler
"...do we really think if companies are forced to pay their workers more that they'll just suck up the extra cost and not raise prices?"Sure...when they are employee owned.The salaries of CEO's are hundreds of times more than their employees. That sucking sound youmighthave heardis the

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-26 Thread John Mullan
No problems Michael. It's just the overly simplistic way I see it. It may very well be totally inaccurate and most certainly an over-simplification. And you make a very good regarding participation. Cheers, John Michael Redler wrote: Hi John, I don't mean to be a pain in the ass but,

[Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-24 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0622-28.htm Published on Thursday, June 22, 2006 by The Nation Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down by Katrina vanden Heuvel The GOP just shafted the working people of America. By rejecting an attempt to raise the minimum wage, the Republican-controlled

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-24 Thread Kurt Nolte
Keith Addison wrote: The GOP just shafted the working people of America. By rejecting an attempt to raise the minimum wage, the Republican-controlled Senate showed that it is far more interested in lining the pockets of its campaign contributors than - as Paul Krugman wrote in a New York