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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?
Simon mentioned shutting down the engine at stop lights because in Europe,
it's commonplace. I travel to Switzerland every year and over there (where
rules mean everything - whether written or implied) everybody does
Even better, make it a
factory built plug-in diesel hybrid. Peace, D. Mindock
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged
Your Hummer Today?
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: Mike Redler
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Have You Hugged Your Hummer Today?
Simon mentioned shutting down the engine at stop lights because in Europe,
it's commonplace. I travel to Switzerland every year and over there (where
Why not combine the best of both and create a diesel hybrid? Better city AND highway mileage!On 7/30/06, robert and benita rabello
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew Lowe wrote:
I can remember seeing an episode of the English show Top Gear,www.bbc.co.uk/topgear where the consumption
Hello Will, Great idea. In fact, I believe WV actually makes one, but it is not available in the US and gas mileage around 90.Can anyone verify this? Thanks, Tony MarzolinoWill Kelleher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not combine the best of both and create a diesel hybrid? Better city AND
Kirk,I respectfully disagree.By definition,hybridsare about throwing the apples and orangesin the same basket.(IMO), what makes one hybrid scheme better than another is the region it's being usedand what type of fuel(or fuels) are most abundant and best suited for promoting
A diesel WILL outperform a gasoline hybrid in overall fuel economy. But when
we drive around town, there are times when we're using NO fuel at all, which
means we're not putting anything into the air either. We burn NO fuel while
sitting at a light. A diesel can't do that.
I beg to
Simon Fowler MADUR-SALES wrote:
I beg to differ. There is nothing to stop you switching the engine off when
standing still. We have signs requesting you to do so at some level crossings
as well.
You're right, and I concede that point. However, I've never seen
anyone do this at a stop
Yes and constant starting is not what your starter was designed for so
you'll be replacing it a hell of a lot sooner. What is the energy budget
of that scenario? Gasoline engines run richer when starting also.
Joe
robert and benita rabello wrote:
Simon Fowler MADUR-SALES wrote:
I
Hi Kirk,
I think I may have misunderstood. If I did and you are saying that
comparing hybrids and non-hybrids, irrespective of the fuel they burn,
I agree.
...sorry if I missed your point.
-Redler
Kirk McLoren wrote:
Comparing a gasoline hybrid with a diesel is apples and oranges.
yes comparing hybrid to non hybrid is not much of a comparison - they are too different and the hybrid would really shine in stop and go. If they are comparing mpg then the prime movers need to be the same technology. Again the hybrid should shine in the city. On open road you are relying on the
robert and benita rabello wrote:
Simon Fowler MADUR-SALES wrote:
I beg to differ. There is nothing to stop you switching the engine
off when standing still. We have signs requesting you to do so at
some level crossings as well.
I do this at certain traffic lights in both my (bio)diesel
Simon mentioned shutting down the engine at stop lights because in
Europe, it's commonplace. I travel to Switzerland every year and over
there (where rules mean everything - whether written or implied)
everybody does it. The benefit of a hybrid does not make itself known
on the highway where
The good folks at Reason.org are at it yet again. :-(
http://www.reason.org/commentaries/dalmia_20060719.shtml
AP
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Alan Petrillo wrote:
The good folks at Reason.org are at it yet again. :-(
http://www.reason.org/commentaries/dalmia_20060719.shtml
What a load of crap! Nowhere NEAR the EPA fuel economy estimates?
My hybrid runs within spitting distance of its fuel economy estimates,
even at
robert and benita rabello wrote:
What a load of crap! Nowhere NEAR the EPA fuel economy estimates?
My hybrid runs within spitting distance of its fuel economy estimates,
even at highway speeds with the air conditioner on. And since when has
a Hummer lasted 300 000 miles?
Quoting Alan Petrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The good folks at Reason.org are at it yet again. :-(
http://www.reason.org/commentaries/dalmia_20060719.shtml
AP
I can remember seeing an episode of the English show Top Gear,
www.bbc.co.uk/topgear where the consumption of hybrids was
Andrew Lowe wrote:
I can remember seeing an episode of the English show Top Gear,
www.bbc.co.uk/topgear where the consumption of hybrids was mentioned. One of the
presenters said that he drove a hybrid from point A to point B and got about
40-45 miles/gallon. He subsequently drove a
Is it me or, do the words in this thread remind you of an earlier
discussion about ethanol and a guy named "Dave"?
Maybe there's a club where certain people meet and put there heads
together to discourage public interest in anything new and progressive.
You know...something like the O.D.O.D.
You folks are all WRONG,
This is simply an application of the same economic principals that the
current administration is applying to the American Economy -
I just used the same formulas they did on the American economy to the
Hummer and the Hybrid and the Hummer wins hands down - see it's just
Comparing a gasoline hybrid with a diesel is apples and oranges. How about comparing a diesel hybrid with a diesel.KirkJJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You folks are all WRONG,This is simply an application of the same economic principals that the current administration is applying to the
I went to the website. Professional shills. Well paid by their masters.KirkMike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it me or, do the words in this thread remind you of an earlier discussion about ethanol and a guy named "Dave"?Maybe there's a club where certain people meet and put there heads
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