Re: [Biofuel] Mass-Produced Electric Cars

2007-02-08 Thread Terry Dyck
some of them are Hydrogen, etc. we have a better chance of changing the world by not creating other problems down the road. Terry Dyck >From: Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Mass

Re: [Biofuel] Mass-Produced Electric Cars

2007-02-08 Thread Kurt Nolte
No, no compost anymore, sadly. We had a decent bin going at our last house six years ago, but we never had the time or need to get one started here. Maybe that's a project for this year. -Kurt Who is off to work for 13 hours, ferrying people about between cities and later keeping drunks off th

Re: [Biofuel] Mass-Produced Electric Cars

2007-02-08 Thread Dawie Coetzee
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Mass-Produced Electric Cars Message: 7 It's not as if we really have any mass-produced electric cars to take issue with at this

Re: [Biofuel] Mass-Produced Electric Cars

2007-02-07 Thread darryl
It's not as if we really have any mass-produced electric cars to take issue with at this point. Pity that's a problem we don't have. (The Prius is NOT an electric car. It is an electric-assist gas car.) I'm not going to argue against walking or cycling. I spent three years lobbying my pr

Re: [Biofuel] Mass-Produced Electric Cars

2007-02-07 Thread Keith Addison
>Dawie Coetzee wrote: > > The bulk of one's effort should be oriented to developing a living > > environment in which driving is unnecessary, and walking supported by > > public transport is the obvious way to get from A to B. Given that, > > the entirely subsidiary project of designing cars and fu

Re: [Biofuel] Mass-Produced Electric Cars

2007-02-07 Thread Keith Addison
Well said Dawie (hoezit daar in die ou Kaap?). High time perhaps to resurrect the old WWII propaganda poster "Is your journey really necessary?" (Is your air-conditioner/whatever ((lifestyle)) really necessary?) You might enjoy this, if you haven't read it already: "How much fuel can we grow? H

Re: [Biofuel] Mass-Produced Electric Cars

2007-02-07 Thread Kurt Nolte
Dawie Coetzee wrote: > The bulk of one's effort should be oriented to developing a living > environment in which driving is unnecessary, and walking supported by > public transport is the obvious way to get from A to B. Given that, > the entirely subsidiary project of designing cars and fuels co

Re: [Biofuel] Mass-Produced Electric Cars

2007-02-07 Thread David Atkins
Agree with that. I would like to add that nature has given us the perfect energy supply chain, as we consume good foods and develop layers of fat energy with which to use (carbon free although some methane occasionally escapes..), so the only real sustainable energy is to use your legs a little

Re: [Biofuel] Mass-Produced Electric Cars

2007-02-07 Thread Dawie Coetzee
The problem with today's cars is exactly that they are mass-produced. Mass-producing electric cars isn't going to solve that. The problem with most electrics is that the job they do best of all is the job we should be doing with our feet. The entire debate around the ecology of transport is tha