Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-20 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Greg Pardon my suspicion, but I had to ask. I'm glad I did, that's good to read, nice stuff. I should say that list members are welcome to promote good gear on the list, whether it's Appropriate Technology or commercial, but if it's commercial they should ask offlist first. Several list me

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-20 Thread Gregory Boulos
Keith I don't have an 'interest' in bioshelters. We don't sell them at Urban Homesteaders - and I don't get commissions on any book sales. I don't have a financial stake in the bioshelters at all - they are friends and collaborators. My business is to start small garage-based manufacturing busine

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-20 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Greg Thanks for the information, but do you have an interest to declare? Do you sell these units at Urban Homesteaders, LLC.? Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner >Pittsburgh's work is aro

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-20 Thread Gregory Boulos
Pittsburgh's work is around Bioshelters. Pittsburgh Permacultureis a group working on installing food forests, and they recently got a grant to install Pittsburgh's first urban bioshelter. The original bioshelter designs

[Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-04 Thread Fritz
Hello Doug, i think you are on the rigth track with your model greenhouse. there is two things i miss on your description: 1.is shading on hot days 2.ventilation on hot summerdays it is crucial to limit heatbuild up in the greenhous. Verry efficiant are stroh mats wich you roll over the glasspanel

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-03 Thread Chip Mefford
Hey Keith; >- Original Message - >From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Thanks very much Chip. Those are good. > >Compost 'tea' distillery, though? No need for a distillery. Take a >5-gallon pail, add 2 double handfuls of worm casts or finely sifted >compost (aerobic, thermophilic

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-02 Thread Keith Addison
t: Thursday, December 2, 2010 10:40:18 AM >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming >> >>Anyone willing to send me photos of their greenhouses? Plus whatever >>information you think might be relevant (if you haven't already said >>it onlist)? > >Hey K

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-02 Thread Chip Mefford
And this is another picture that shows the greenhouses http://cpm01.smugmug.com/Bicycles/buy-fresh-bike-local-2010/IMG0747/963630486_GKPoV-XL.jpg The woman in the white shirt is the farm manager. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.or

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-02 Thread Chip Mefford
>- Original Message - >From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Sent: Thursday, December 2, 2010 10:40:18 AM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming > >Anyone willing to send me photos of their greenhouses?

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-02 Thread Keith Addison
This is the best greenhouse I've seen, at the Hortus Botanicus in Amsterdam: http://a-nice-place.com/images/hortus-amsterdam2.jpg Hortus Botanicus Amsterdam http://en.dehortus.nl/homepage I preferred it to Kew, though Kew's greenhouse is more spectacular:

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-02 Thread Keith Addison
Anyone willing to send me photos of their greenhouses? Plus whatever information you think might be relevant (if you haven't already said it onlist)? TIA very much Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.or

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-02 Thread Chip Mefford
>- Original Message - >From: "David Penfold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org >These chaps do geodesic greenhouses: > >http://www.geodesic-greenhouse-kits.com/features.php If you like that kinda thing, I've loved these people for many years. Nice folks,

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Aleksander Kac
http://www.fourseasonfarm.com/resources/index.html#greenhouses This chap wrote a book. I ordered it last week, but I can't comment as amazon says it'll take another two weeks to get here. I just built a hybrid (well, bigger than a cold frame and not a full size greenhouse) last weekend. It will

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Rob Hayes
___ From: Ivan Menchero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 5:58:00 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming Hi Dan, Here is a thought Something I never seen in the Western Countries, I have onl

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Bruno M.
Hi Dan, you may like to explore this website, lots of idea's, plans and/or links to it. http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Sunspace/sunspaces.htm Have you or others have been thinking about insulation? With soap bubbles? An invention ( or development) from a Canadian guy named Richard Nelson,

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread deborah howard
I'm just getting into thinking about winter gardening and live in Connecticut, vastly different from South Dakota. In the spring I want to erect a high tunnel, and according to Eliot Coleman (check out his books) who lives in Maine and does winter gardening, the trick is to plant hardy greens f

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread doug
For the last several years I've been contemplating building a greenhouse, not merely to extend the growing season, but also, like you, to grow vegetables around the calendar year. I've collected a number of pieces of mismatched glass panes, and last year helped my neighbor replace a number of

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
d up quite well with some modern tweeks (and backup!).You can always get new ideas from old techniques. > ---Original Message--- > From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farmi

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Zeke Yewdall
s > adjacent to an attached greenhouse. One of the better earlier books but > some of his ideas were later discredited for being insufficient in colder > climates. > > > > > > > > > > ---Original Message--- > > From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL P

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I've been in one of their greenhouses, in Estes Park. Pretty nice... though I'm not sure how well it would do without supplimental heat. The one I was in had four 4x8 foot solar thermal collectors heating the pond in it, plus an electric backup heater. The dome shape is elegant visually, and let

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
rlier books but some of his ideas were later discredited for being insufficient in colder climates. > ---Original Message--- > From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming > Sent:

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Greg >I'm working on some projects here in Pittsburgh on greenhouses, >bioshelters and urban hightunnels. I'd be willing to chat with >you/contribute to the threads. For my part, I'm not up for chatting - too far away (in Japan), and it's too late anyway (3 am). But please contribute onlist

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Zeke >This the one that I have >http://www.amazon.com/Solar-Greenhouse-Book-James-McCullagh/dp/0878571981/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=129148&sr=1-1 Thankyou! Rodale, hmphh... No apparent catalogue anymore, and their site search for "solar" and for "greenhouse" found nothing: "We could

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread David Penfold
These chaps do geodesic greenhouses: http://www.geodesic-greenhouse-kits.com/features.php They're hideously expensive, but I think you could incorporate some of the properties into a far simpler passive solar design. David -- next part ---

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Zeke Yewdall
This the one that I have http://www.amazon.com/Solar-Greenhouse-Book-James-McCullagh/dp/0878571981/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=129148&sr=1-1 On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I can't find any record of a book called "Passive solar heating" > publishe

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Greg B
I'm working on some projects here in Pittsburgh on greenhouses, bioshelters and urban hightunnels. I'd be willing to chat with you/contribute to the threads. Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 1, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm very interested in all this. Ther

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
I can't find any record of a book called "Passive solar heating" published by Rodale (or anybody else) at Rodale, Amazon, ABE or Alibris. There are a couple of books published by Chelsea Green and Elsevier with "passive solar" in the title, but they're focused on homes, not greenhouses. Are you

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Darryl McMahon
Nuts. Apparently I was having finger trouble with cutting and pasting this morning. OK, they should be: http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/57103 and http://www.climatetemp.info/canada/ottawa-ontario.html Keith, thanks for noticing that. While we

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
Those two weather urls are the same Darryl. Keith >This company supplies tomatoes to local stores year-round in Ottawa, >Ontario, Canada. > >http://www.suntech.ca/ > >You might want to investigate how the do things. > >Looks like average temperatures are pretty comparable for SD and Ottawa >over

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
I'm very interested in all this. There's nothing at the Journey to Forever website about greenhouses, and I've had some questions about it, so I'm planning to make a new section on greenhouses, But I don't have any experience of them. I had a smallish polytunnel once, which worked quite well, b

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Zeke Yewdall
ouse would save tremendous amounts of heat. > > Look into PAR lamps for cloudy days. (Photosynthetically Available > Radiation) > " > > > > > > From: Darryl McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sust

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Kirk McLoren
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming This company supplies tomatoes to local stores year-round in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. http://www.suntech.ca/ You might want to investigate how the do things. Looks like average temperatures are pretty comparable for SD and Ottawa over the course of the

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Fritz
On 10-11-30 11:43 PM, Dan Beukelman wrote: > Hello All, > > I have read your posts for several years, but have not ever posted - > lurking in the shadows I guess. > > > > I am wondering if anyone out there has any thoughts/experience with > production agriculture from a greenhouse/hothouse stru

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Ivan Menchero
r 01, 2010 12:43 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming Hello All, I have read your posts for several years, but have not ever posted - lurking in the shadows I guess. I am wondering if anyone out there has any thoughts/experience with production agricult

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Frank Bergmans
Verzonden: woensdag 1 december 2010 5:44 Aan: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Onderwerp: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming Hello All, I have read your posts for several years, but have not ever posted - lurking in the shadows I guess. I am wondering if anyone out there has any thoughts/experience

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Darryl McMahon
This company supplies tomatoes to local stores year-round in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. http://www.suntech.ca/ You might want to investigate how the do things. Looks like average temperatures are pretty comparable for SD and Ottawa over the course of the year (comparing http://www.weather.com/o

Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Dan and All ; > I live in > South Dakota and have been thinking that with energy > efficient glass and the > right setup that growing fresh vegetables likes tomatoes > year around might > be possible (I say this with a wind chill today near 0 > fahrenheit).  I live in the tropics so I don't ha

[Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Dan Beukelman
Hello All, I have read your posts for several years, but have not ever posted - lurking in the shadows I guess. I am wondering if anyone out there has any thoughts/experience with production agriculture from a greenhouse/hothouse structure. I live in South Dakota and have been thinking tha